Sentry vs Gladiator-The Strongest One

Originally posted by quanchi112
The writer of the WW Hulk does matter since we are addressing that fight. What doesn't matter is your opinion his opinion does matter considering stuff he wrote.

Gladiator has destroyed planets to but when he comes up against the big boys that doesn't mean a heckuva lot.

WW Hulk was holding back and still Bruce came out on top. Throw in Hulk at his best and Sentry gets worked over something fierce. The Sentry would need the Void because without him calling the shots he isn't winning.

Terrax Sentry would beat the .... out of WWH.

Originally posted by h1a8
Terrax Sentry would beat the .... out of WWH.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he wouldn't. 🙂

He would warn him like he did Terrax. But Hulk wouldn't listen so he would kill the .... out of him. Is that better?

Originally posted by h1a8
He would warn him like he did Terrax. But Hulk wouldn't listen so he would kill the .... out of him. Is that better?

It appears I thought I was in the other thread when I made my post... meh, still stands.

Except Gladiator vs Sentry is much closer (if anyone even responded to the actual Glads vs Sentry fight in the first place)

Sentry.

Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's the same character just because he schooled Terrax doesn't mean he schools the WW Hulk. We saw them fight so you saying to ignore it is you living in your own fantasy world.

seem like you are ignoring the characters mental issue that decrease his powers when in certain mind sets. Terrex sentry is much different then the one who fought WWH.

Losing to Hulk isn't a bad showing at all. Sentry putting up a great like he did is a hellava showing.

Originally posted by bbrem123
seem like you are ignoring the characters mental issue that decrease his powers when in certain mind sets. Terrex sentry is much different then the one who fought WWH.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It makes sense that Sentry wanted to weaken himself when he's facing a threat that must be taken down? Seriously? You talk of 'quanchi levels' while being serious?

Stop being stupid, stop being stupid, stop being stupid? What the hell?

It makes sense that the Sentry wants to weaken himself, because he knows that there is the possibility that he could lose the control over his powers. He said that before he entered the battle and it's what happened during the fight with the Hulk.
It's easier for the Avengers to take down an opponent who is already weakened, than have to deal with someone who is physically perfectly fine, FFS.

I didn't pay attention at much of the further text, because it's plain old bullshit. You only looked at the pictures of the comic, the way men "read" the Playboy.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Quanchi levels, heh. Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. Also, "deal with me"? Oh no, please don't insult me, I can't handle that.
If you don't like my tone, then I didn't like yours to begin with. That's the problem here.

The difference is that you come in with ridiculous assumptions and act like you would have a clue about the Sentry and that fight during the WW Hulk arc. And you don't.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
So, when Sentry unleashed his full power, that's actually him getting weaker because his minds not right?
Is. This. A. Joke.

You. Are. A. Joke.

The fact still applies that Sentry is a freakin' hero who saved millions of people.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5108/ts01008.jpg

^ Read the freakin' third panel. He does what's right and in that instance he rather causes environmental damage in millions than risking the lives of the people around him. And now you actually believe that he risks the lives of all the people around him and the people in the city, if they're still not evacuated, just to unleash his power on purpose..? Don't be stupid. Think about it. Comics have more depth than your usual lecture.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Sentry thought he was playing God in the Hulk fight. He thought he was doing the right thing. That's why he unleashed all that power. He wasn't unstable. He was perfectly fine during that fight. One of the only times. He just didn't care about damage like he hasn't in many fights. He was scared of cutting loose, and when he did cut loose, he loved it.

Sentry hates it to play God. It's one of the reasons why he always held back his powers, because he knew that he would have to do the same thing for everyone else.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3614/sentry06oroboros018.jpg

^ He knows what his doctor wants from him and he refuses at the beginning, but in the end he still heals his daughter from her illness.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2320/newthunderbolts014page0.jpg

^ Here he seems to care about damage to the planet and when Photon teleports them to a microverse, he destroys more than just a planet. Ouuu, there goes your argument :-(

And yes, Sentry was more than just unstable. Actually staying for nearly 2 days in front of his door, not being able to leave and save the world. That is actually pretty unstable and while he is unstable, his power level is low.

So now you have a Sentry who CLEARLY HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS as shown before the fight in WW Hulk #5 and then you have a Sentry without any hint of mental problems, who destroys planets while holding back.

Oh :-( Who is right in this one, once again? Some bob who doesn't pay attention at the comics he / she / it is reading, or the guy who considers himself as the Sentry expert nummero uno, because Sentry is his favorite character?
Since I can separate between logic and biasm towards a character, I would say I'm the one who is right.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Actually, I'd like to see a scan where it says Sentry gets weaker depending on him being unstable. It must be pretty common knowledge, so I'm sure this isn't much to ask for.

I did all that ... I did all that ...

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6555/img009e.jpg

^ Black box: "When stable he has the potential for virtually limitless power described as equal to one million exploding suns; however, if his mental state wavers, he becomes weaker and easier to defeat."

So you have a Sentry who was clear minded and very powerful, breaking cosmic weapons in axe and who was mentally so clear, that the Void didn't have a chance to take over and had to manifest himself as a separate entity.
When Sentry had mental issues, his power level sank, his mental defenses got weaker and the Void was able to take over. That's where Sentry's eyes became black and he was doing bad stuff.

So you have a Sentry who is so powerful, that he beats the shit out of the Void physically and leaves him no chance and then you have a Sentry who is mentally unstable, if he has a very bad day and ... yeah.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
In Sentry's fight with Photon they were destroying planets while Captain America was 50 feet away from them? Not to mention they didn't actually show them destroying planets... but it did say they put out enough to shred entire worlds, not that they were.

It doesn't matter what you think - it's what was there on the panel.
The entire mesa under Captain America was collapsing and he was buried under the rocks. Photon teleported him away and then you saw Photon and Sentry releasing more energy and Sentry's energy outreaching the microverse.

Judging by your logic, Thor wouldn't have even one single speed feat, like for example where he dodges a light speed attack at a close range. The narration says it. We don't see much of it, but it's still a valid feat for him, even though it's years and years and years old.

And back to the Sentry:
Even when he was in an unstable mindset, he managed to stalemate the Collective for a while, who empowered Ms. Marvel to become Binary and then EASILY took her down. And Binary is a planet buster as well :-7

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Plus, when they almost killed Cap with falling rocks, Sentry was the one that didn't care about Cap, and Photon BFR'ed Cap so he didn't kill him. What a stable mindset Sentry was in, amirite? The guy was putting out all this energy while Cap was running around dodging it. What a stable guy.

Sentry was still holding back?
Sentry is super fast and can teleport too?
Sentry can heal and resurrect people?

But besides that, his stability doesn't have to do much with his morals. Once again, he is neither Superman, nor Silver Surfer. I would also kill off Captain America for the sake of the greater good, since he is just a peak human, while there are heroes who are vastly more powerful and can achieve far more.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Then you have Sentry's fight with Void where no collateral damage was caused (let alone whole worlds getting shredded), and you realize that the Photon fight was a one off feat, not the normal. Unless you think that Sentry always holds back more than the Photon fight.

Photon is neither Spider-Man, nor Captain America, nor Iron Man, nor the She-Hulk, nor Ares, nor Wolverine, nor Green Goblin and so on, and so on.
Do you see the difference? Marvel is full of weaker heroes than the DC side has them. What's Sentry supposed to do?

But hey, the Sentry said it better than I could ever do:
"You could kill rip Spider-Man's arms off. You could kill Captain America".

Yes, Sentry holds back.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Sentry and Photon's fight in your words shred entire worlds while holding back. This is what you think.

Before I continue reading it, I would like to point out, that I think that the Sentry holds up with Genis-Vell in energy projection and manipulation, when he is fairly stable.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
So, Sentry goes from shredding worlds, and him and Photon locking up makes them visible in Iron Man's armor (which oddly, is no bigger than a planet but I digress) to being punched back to Earth and being stunned briefly. Sentry while kneeling over says to Photon that he's not going to hold back anymore.

Who says that the Sentry really cut loose in the microverse. We don't know. Maybe he is more powerful. After all, everyone says that his power doesn't have any llimits.

In the Photon fight, I didn't see any Photon energy leaving the microverse, it was all golden and Sentry's and then Photon broke out of it and Sentry fell down. He said he would get serious and Photon BFR'd him.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And here's all your logic in work mind you, but if Sentry holding back is shredding worlds, then what is Sentry not holding back going to do to Earth with billions and billions of people who in your words he saves everyday?
Sentry was in your logic going to destroy Earth, and you think this is a stable Sentry? Why did you think Sentry wasn't stable in WWH?

Once again, you're not following the entire picture.
Sentry's only power is not boosting out huge energy. Do you actually get that? Not holding back anymore can also mean other things. Osborn told the Sentry not to hold back when they encountered Morgana and Sentry speedblitzed her, by flying behind her and ripping her head off, while she was not able to react to it.

He speedblitzed from the orbit and one-shotted Blue Marvel. He tore apart Carnage, he tore apart Ares. He mind-raped Super Adaptoid, he killed off the Absorbing Man by cutting lose.

There is my logic.
What says you that the Sentry wouldn't be able to destroy Photon if he actually stops holding back? I don't want to judge that. All I know is that Photon BFR'd him and already knew that Sentry would find a way out.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
You can't make this up. All of this is using your logic.
So I guess the whole stability argument is out the window... ?

Doesn't seem so :-)

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Even WWH would have gotten broken in half against the Hulk in this thread (which makes no sense, but alas, Pak loves giving characters multiple powerups).

Sentry is not the Hulk.
Sentry has the power and the versatility to surpass basically every single Hulk there is. Yes, also World Breaker Hulk.

People will argue for Thor and Superman, when it comes to a fight against World Breaker Hulk, yet when it comes to the Sentry, everyone is instantly like: "OU SENTRY GETS STOMPED LOL, HE ALREADY LOST TO WW HULK" ... LOLOLO, and they completely ignore basically every other showing of the Sentry where he proved that he is vastly more powerful than it was portrayed during the WW Hulk arc, basically an arc which was fuuuuuuuuull of PIS for the sake of the story, so that the Hulk could go from point A to point B and smash.

Enzuru all u said was nothing but pure speculation which is cool

Originally posted by TheHulk
Enzuru all u said was nothing but pure speculation which is cool

I doubt that you understood my posts, or even read them at all. Or that you even read the Sentry comics propperly.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I doubt that you understood my posts, or even read them at all. Or that you even read the Sentry comics propperly.

I don't know why he keeps bringing up the fight with Sentry vs Genis and try to use it as something to indicate Sentry was holding back in his fight against Hulk. Look at the circumstances. One fight took place in an area where destruction really didn't matter (Genis and Sentry fight) and the other took place on Earth, a place where collateral damage plays a huge role in the MU.

Even though Hulk has destroyed planets in a fist cuff doesnt mean that I can throw all of his fights out in the future because Earth didn't explode during a fist cuff. Sentry didmt hold back against Hulk, that's all we need to know... Earth wasn't blown up in this fight for NUMEROUS of reasons...Hulk didn't split Earth in half when he went World Breaker for numerous of reasons...its earth.

Overall, Enzeru, your argument is lame.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I doubt that you understood my posts, or even read them at all. Or that you even read the Sentry comics propperly.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lol I know my sentry sh*t alright

1. Where was the Sentry during the Civil War?
2. How could the Sentry break out of Dr. Strange's illusion?
3. What did the Void do after Sentry healed the daughter of his doctor?
4. What was the name of Sentry's side kick and his dog?
5. What happened to the Lindy's dance instructor?

Originally posted by carver9
I don't know why he keeps bringing up the fight with Sentry vs Genis and try to use it as something to indicate Sentry was holding back in his fight against Hulk. Look at the circumstances. One fight took place in an area where destruction really didn't matter (Genis and Sentry fight) and the other took place on Earth, a place where collateral damage plays a huge role in the MU.

I never said he was holding back during the WW Hulk arc. I simply said that he was unstable and therefore had a lower power level.

During his fight with Genis-Vell he released more power,
especially because he also was able to, since there was no population later on, so they could lose.

I don't know what's with the weird logic, that the characters can cut loose when they're on the Earth where they can cause environmental damage o_O You're really a weird-o, carver9.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk didn't split Earth in half when he went World Breaker for numerous of reasons...its earth.

Hulk was on the edge to become the pure World Breaker. His foot steps were causing enough destruction and he was probably holding himself back: "Finish me off, before I break the world" ...

So him holding back, causes few strong earthquakes and him cutting lose in the dark dimension on a planet full of monsters where no one cares about, he destroys the planet while colliding with Red She-Hulk and Photon and Genis were leveling multiple planets while they were still holding back.

Makes you think, huh?

Originally posted by carver9
Overall, Enzeru, your argument is lame.

Overall, carver9, you're exactly the "thing" the regular people call you.

Originally posted by Enzeru
1. Where was the Sentry during the Civil War?
2. How could the Sentry break out of Dr. Strange's illusion?
3. What did the Void do after Sentry healed the daughter of his doctor?
4. What was the name of Sentry's side kick and his dog?
5. What happened to the Lindy's dance instructor?

I never said he was holding back during the WW Hulk arc. I simply said that he was unstable and therefore had a lower power level.

During his fight with Genis-Vell he released more power,
especially because he also was able to, since there was no population later on, so they could lose.

I don't know what's with the weird logic, that the characters can cut loose when they're on the Earth where they can cause environmental damage o_O You're really a weird-o, carver9.

Hulk was on the edge to become the pure World Breaker. His foot steps were causing enough destruction and he was probably holding himself back: "Finish me off, before I break the world" ...

So him holding back, causes few strong earthquakes and him cutting lose in the dark dimension on a planet full of monsters where no one cares about, he destroys the planet while colliding with Red She-Hulk and Photon and Genis were leveling multiple planets while they were still holding back.

Makes you think, huh?

Overall, carver9, you're exactly the "thing" the regular people call you.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Your Starting To Lose Respect Dawg.... 😒:

There goes your "sentry sh*t alright".