Originally posted by guy222have to disagree with you there. Strange at his peak is high scale cosmic before calling on other deities. But like I said the occurences of him doing such things is a few times in his history. But then again odin busting galaxies is a 1-2 time thing iirc
not enough tricks for bag to useodin is a 'god' strange is a mystic with a bag of hope 😂
Originally posted by Magnon
Hmm.. tough call. Classic Dr. Strange can kill a hungry Galactus with a simple gesture,http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/59088/1895915-strangevsgalactus1_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/59088/1895918-strangevsgalactus2_super.jpgwhereas Odin can only momentarily KO a reasonably-well-fed Galactus,
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/67064/2023348-odin_vs_galactus.jpg
Tbf to Galactus, he was starving during that instance. This is a situation though that Odin's mastery of magic (His the greatest sorcerer in Asgard, better than even Loki or the Norn Queen. I would have liked to see him use actual sorcery instead of just raw power against the World Eater) would give him an advantage over Galactus.
Originally posted by Magnon
Well, maybe Surtur and Ymir, which were little more than toys to Classic Dr. Strange:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4679/avengers06119kz0.jpg
Yea.....Doctor Strange didn't actually defeat Ymir/Surtur. He used the crystal of the Satannish cult to teleport the two entities into each other after he mastered it, which canceled out their existence on this plane. As such, it's not really applicable as a reference point. Context.
It's been a while since I read the arc but I remember it being pretty clear that the crystal was their only hope of saving the world from their cosmic power or whatever, meaning I wouldn't bank on Strange taking them on solo like that.
Also, was there every anymore to this appearance? I'm asking, because Surtur/Ymir were treated as manifestations of elements (Surtur at least has some physical substance) and the fire demon was trapped on Asgard at this time.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIf you think there was more, and it's a Strange feat, then chances are there was plenty more... on this forum.
Also, was there every anymore to this appearance? I'm asking, because Surtur/Ymir were treated as manifestations of elements (Surtur at least has some physical substance) and the fire demon was trapped on Asgard at this time.
Strange KO'ing Galactus with a blast happened... if you don't post the rest of the scans
Strange easily trapping and beating Surfer happened... if Surfer didn't break out and if it was actually Surfer.
etc
Hell, even in the new respect thread you get the same thing, and non canon scans.
Point is, when it comes to Strange, oddly context doesn't matter to fans. I'm going to go look through this appearance too Rage
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
If you think there was more, and it's a Strange feat, then chances are there was plenty more... on this forum.Strange KO'ing Galactus with a blast happened... if you don't post the rest of the scans
Strange easily trapping and beating Surfer happened... if Surfer didn't break out and if it was actually Surfer.
etcHell, even in the new respect thread you get the same thing, and non canon scans.
Point is, when it comes to Strange, oddly context doesn't matter to fans. I'm going to go look through this appearance too Rage
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I used to mistakenly believe Classic Strange was this nigh unstoppable omnipotent being until I starting reading and looking for the context on my own. He's highly impressive, but he employs the use of context and plot device and the odd example of outright PIS to do the things he's done. And even bringing up said context or asking if there was any of note actually offends some of his backers.
Oh ya, forgot about this thread...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusLook at how easy Strange treated Surtur and Ymir like toys!
Yea.....Doctor Strange didn't actually defeat Ymir/Surtur. He used the crystal of the Satannish cult to teleport the two entities into each other after he mastered it, which canceled out their existence on this plane. As such, it's not really applicable as a reference point. Context.It's been a while since I read the arc but I remember it being pretty clear that the crystal was their only hope of saving the world from their cosmic power or whatever, meaning I wouldn't bank on Strange taking them on solo like that.
Also, was there every anymore to this appearance? I'm asking, because Surtur/Ymir were treated as manifestations of elements (Surtur at least has some physical substance) and the fire demon was trapped on Asgard at this time.
And this was all just to teleport Ymir/Surtur... how relevant to Odin since Odin has no defense against being teleported... even if he had the Crystal and even if it worked on Odin
That was Ymir and Surtur though. They were set free in that arc
Originally posted by Uriel005
have to disagree with you there. Strange at his peak is high scale cosmic before calling on other deities. But like I said the occurences of him doing such things is a few times in his history. But then again odin busting galaxies is a 1-2 time thing iirc
with a trick friend
odin way too high on the scale for doc to contend with
and i agree i never put much stock in odin busting galaxies or making humans....
i always liked him being g = yet that was retconned with fraction's nonsense
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
If you think there was more, and it's a Strange feat, then chances are there was plenty more... on this forum.Strange KO'ing Galactus with a blast happened... if you don't post the rest of the scans
Strange easily trapping and beating Surfer happened... if Surfer didn't break out and if it was actually Surfer.
etcHell, even in the new respect thread you get the same thing, and non canon scans.
Point is, when it comes to Strange, oddly context doesn't matter to fans. I'm going to go look through this appearance too Rage
Doc did ko Big G with Images of Ikon. Plain as day on panel. I only posted maybe a couple non cannon scans in the new respect thread but all high end stuff is certified cannon. I only have Doc shielding himself vs. Surfer which isn't absurd considering all that he's shielded himself against.
At no point have I attempted to mislead anyone concerning Strange. Only stated what happened on panel.
Originally posted by SundippedI don't want to get into an argument with you about your respect thread, but...
Doc did ko Big G with Images of Ikon. Plain as day on panel. I only posted maybe a couple non cannon scans in the new respect thread but all high end stuff is certified cannon. I only have Doc shielding himself vs. Surfer which isn't absurd considering all that he's shielded himself against.At no point have I attempted to mislead anyone concerning Strange. Only stated what happened on panel.
I wasn't talking about that, or about you in the first two.
Plus, Galactus was shrinking the whole time from being really hungry, and the Surfer scene is actually FrankenSurfer
See, that's the thing, why would you post non canon scans and never state that they were actually 'non canon'?
I haven't taken the time to look over your thread too much, but I did see some things that are a little misleading. Little gripes.
Although it is much better than the previous thread, as that was 90 percent lies.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
👆I used to mistakenly believe Classic Strange was this nigh unstoppable omnipotent being until I starting reading and looking for the context on my own. He's highly impressive, but he employs the use of context and plot device and the odd example of outright PIS to do the things he's done. And even bringing up said context or asking if there was any of note actually offends some of his backers.
Not that many cases of PIS as you may think. Him just having the title / powers of a sorcerer supreme explains a lot of what he does. I never got offended behind contextual circumstances although I can't speak for these mysterious backers.
Oh yeah, you are right though. He is highly impressive. 😎
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I don't want to get into an argument with you about your respect thread, but...I wasn't talking about that, or about you in the first two.
Plus, Galactus was shrinking the whole time from being really hungry, and the Surfer scene is actually FrankenSurferSee, that's the thing, why would you post non canon scans and never state that they were actually 'non canon'?
I haven't taken the time to look over your thread too much, but I did see some things that are a little misleading. Little gripes.
Although it is much better than the previous thread, as that was 90 percent lies.
Oh ok. I understand that you were replying to someone else. That was really just a case of someone else misinterpreting the scans. The scan I used even stated Doc used the Crystal but hey it happens all the time.
Never listed the couples of non cannon scans as such because they were only minor feats which would probably never be referenced for anything anyway. Just threw em in there.
If you notice I only used the FranenSurfer scan for Docs shield section. I never bothered to post the whole encounter because of the fact it would cause confusion. As for Galactus, I stated the reason why I deemed that attack really effective. Others may differ but it's an opinionated stance.
Originally posted by SundippedI saw Korvac BFR'ing Strange because of threat, and him 'turning the world to jelly' scans last time I was in there...
Oh ok. I understand that you were replying to someone else. That was really just a case of someone else misinterpreting the scans. The scan I used even stated Doc used the Crystal but hey it happens all the time.Never listed the couples of non cannon scans as such because they were only minor feats which would probably never be referenced for anything anyway. Just threw em in there.
If you notice I only used the FranenSurfer scan for Docs shield section. I never bothered to post the whole encounter because of the fact it would cause confusion. As for Galactus, I stated the reason why I deemed that attack really effective. Others may differ but it's an opinionated stance.
Oh, I know why you didn't post the whole thing. 😖hifty:
Ya, I never said I had a problem with that. Just saying that it's Galactus at one of his absolute lowest in comics in terms of hunger (the other being the mini with Galactus).
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I saw Korvac BFR'ing Strange because of threat, and him 'turning the world to jelly' scans last time I was in there...Oh, I know why you didn't post the whole thing. 😖hifty:
Ya, I never said I had a problem with that. Just saying that it's Galactus at one of his absolute lowest in comics in terms of hunger (the other being the mini with Galactus).
That's the couple. The Korvac scan fit well in the highly acclaimed section didn't really feel the need to list it non canon. The world to jelly just for kicks. Started to not even post it tbh.
Can you blame mefor not posting it? 🙁
Docs attack was/is a perfect fit for Galactus due to the nature of its effects weak or not.
Originally posted by SundippedI remember more, but those certainly aren't low feats to just "throw in there".
That's the couple. The Korvac scan fit well in the highly acclaimed section didn't really feel the need to list it non canon. The world to jelly just for kicks. Started to not even post it tbh.Can you blame mefor not posting it? 🙁
Docs attack was/is a perfect fit for Galactus due to the nature of its effects weak or not.
"Ya, I never said I had a problem with that."
