Originally posted by Enzeru
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BULLET, IT'S ABOUT THE GOD DAMN PURPOSE! A SILVER BULLET DOES NOT HAVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE BUT TO BE USED AGAINST A WEREWOLF TO KILL HIM!
A CUCUMBER DOES NOT HAVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE BUT TO BE EATEN (go figure)...The killing strike is encoded within Drax so that he now has the urge to kill Thanos. When that is done, he has finally found peace. Drax never said and comics never stated that he was superior to Thanos, because he had some special advantages.
Metallo has an advantage over Superman, every time he runs on Kryptonite. Drax simply biatch-smacked Thanos.
Are you honestly this stupid and desperate that you have to reach this bad? Let me ask you this... can the silverbullet statement be used as an analogy to describe a situation where something or somebody has a specific weakness towards ____? Very simple question that I would like to see how honest you'll be.
My next question is... Do you think your opinion carries more weight than the Editor and CHief of Marvel and that coimc book? If so, why do you think your oponion carries more weight. The reason I ask is because Andy Schmidt flat out said that the green aura Drax exhibited in A.W. was a new ability he got and it turned off Thanos natural eternal powers of Molecular control. He then went out to explain WHY he no exhibited this green aura.. That drax is constantly reborn with new powers and abilities and through trial and error will give him the ability to deal the death blow to Thanos. So, explain why your opinion of the narration and artistic deptiction matters more and is so differnt than the heads of marvel, who ya know, actually released the comic you "read"
Originally posted by EnzeruYes, so a silver bullet is an anomaly since it isn't more powerful than a regular bullet. I love how you ignore the rest of my post with the same nuh uh sort of responses. The editor flat out stated Drax negated his powers.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BULLET, IT'S ABOUT THE GOD DAMN PURPOSE! A SILVER BULLET DOES NOT HAVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE BUT TO BE USED AGAINST A WEREWOLF TO KILL HIM!
A CUCUMBER DOES NOT HAVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE BUT TO BE EATEN (go figure)...The killing strike is encoded within Drax so that he now has the urge to kill Thanos. When that is done, he has finally found peace. Drax never said and comics never stated that he was superior to Thanos, because he had some special advantages.
Metallo has an advantage over Superman, every time he runs on Kryptonite. Drax simply biatch-smacked Thanos.
Drax just stated he has his killing stroke encoded in his dna which is a huge special advantage. It's fun though seeing you deny the obvious.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are you honestly this stupid and desperate that you have to reach this bad?
Look who is asking, one of those Thanos-wanking idiots.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Let me ask you this... can the silverbullet statement be used as an analogy to describe a situation where something or somebody has a specific weakness towards ____? Very simple question that I would like to see how honest you'll be.
If the silver bullet sentence would have been the only one Drax said, then yes, probably, but Drax said far more then just that and judging by his entire explanation, there is nothing that hints out that he has the special ability to kill Thanos.
His only special ability was to track the presence of Thanos.
He was clearly talking about the purpose. That was the very first sentence he mentioned. That it would be his purpose to kill Thanos. His last sentence was that his mind would finally find peace after he would acomplish that. Not hard to imagine if someone enconded the urge to kill Thanos within his genetic structure, so that the only thing he could think of was to kill Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do you think your opinion carries more weight than the Editor and CHief of Marvel and that coimc book? If so, why do you think your oponion carries more weight.
At first, no I don't think that, but judging by my awesome intelligence someone like you should rely on my opinion, since I'm obviously smarter then Quanchi, Nihilist and you combined.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The reason I ask is because Andy Schmidt flat out said that the green aura Drax exhibited in A.W. was a new ability he got and it turned off Thanos natural eternal powers of Molecular control. He then went out to explain WHY he no exhibited this green aura..
And Greg Pak stated that if WW Hulk would not have been stopped, that he would have continued with his rampage and went straight ahead to guys like Thanos and destroyed them too.
But something like that was never written in the comic book, so who the **** cares? Not even one reader should care about that, since writers opinions also don't matter, if they're not on panel.
The same applies for other scenarios, like the Siege. Bendis also stated in an interview that Void was vastly more powerful than Thor and that the only reason the heroes were able to defeat him, was that Robert wanted to die in the end.
Yet that was never written on the panel and Bendis specifically didn't want someone like Spider-Woman to say: "Oh boy, if he didn't allow us to kill him, we would have never been able to defeat him."
Yet that's what happened in the comic anyway, even though no one ever said it or hinted it out and your low life buddy Quanchi likes to ride on that on a lot.
But that's not the only case. The same applies also for other instances, where Bendis did something crazy and said that Ares and Thor are equals and that Ares could be more powerful
Do we trust that statement, simply because Bendis said it, the guy who was writing the characters? No we don't, since NOTHING has ever shown us Ares being on pair with Thor.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=136756
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t528981.html
Nothing has ever shown us in the comics that Drax had some special advantages over Thanos, despite being simply more powerful and taking him down, but we have shown Drax using his aura to amp himself and get past other hard odds and not just using it to face Thanos.
It does not matter what a writer / editor / what so ever tells you, since they often don't know shit.
It's important what we see on panel and even that is very debatable sometimes, since PIS / WIS and CIS are all over the place.
And it still applies, that the Thanos-squad on this board is a bunch of idiots.
Originally posted by CogitoIt's in my posting history in a previous thread but I am not looking it up. You don't have to believe me I honestly don't care but Andy Schmidt did say it. I also think the scans are proof enough about his special killing powers with regards to Thanos. If people want to deny the obvious plain statements on panel I can't change their minds. Some people want to believe what they want to promote their own characters I don't think like that.
So, you don't have proof?Or should we just say "it's been posted before" every time you ask someone for proof or scans or whatnot.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's in my posting history in a previous thread but I am not looking it up. You don't have to believe me I honestly don't care but Andy Schmidt did say it. I also think the scans are proof enough about his special killing powers with regards to Thanos. If people want to deny the obvious plain statements on panel I can't change their minds. Some people want to believe what they want to promote their own characters I don't think like that.
Well if you're not going to look it up, I don't see why we should.
So I'm going to assume that this "proof" doesn't exist, until shown otherwise.
Originally posted by CogitoI stated I read it myself I already posted the scans themselves but the link no longer exists on cbr since it was a 2007 thread. You can believe whatever you want most people do anyways and when I posted the proof before people still ignored it. Hell, I posted scans when someone called me a liar about calling Drax a silver bullet to his werewolf and then they still backed their case. No matter what some people are still too hard headed I backed my case like I always do.
Well if you're not going to look it up, I don't see why we should.So I'm going to assume that this "proof" doesn't exist, until shown otherwise.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I stated I read it myself
Stopped reading there.
As if anyone believes you and even besides that. If writers and editors say something fancy, even though it never happaned on panel, that it does not matter. We don't give characters extra abilities / advantages, simply because someone had an idea, yet it was never released and sold over thousands of times.
Originally posted by EnzeruIt was stated on panel that he's the silver bullet which means he is anomalous with regards to Thanos. Read the scan I posted the one you said didn't exist. Your nuh uh isn't a valid response.
Stopped reading there.As if anyone believes you and even besides that. If writers and editors say something fancy, even though it never happaned on panel, that it does not matter. We don't give characters extra abilities / advantages, simply because someone had an idea, yet it was never released and sold over thousands of times.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was stated on panel that he's the silver bullet which means he is anomalous with regards to Thanos. Read the scan I posted the one you said didn't exist. Your nuh uh isn't a valid response.
I'm going to paste/copy my text, since I don't bother that much to explain it to you in your language. Maybe you will understand it, if you read few times through it.
If the silver bullet sentence would have been the only one Drax said, then yes, probably, but Drax said far more then just that and judging by his entire explanation, there is nothing that hints out that he has the special ability to kill Thanos.
His only special ability was to track the presence of Thanos.
He was clearly talking about the purpose. That was the very first sentence he mentioned. That it would be his purpose to kill Thanos. His last sentence was that his mind would finally find peace after he would acomplish that. Not hard to imagine if someone enconded the urge to kill Thanos within his genetic structure, so that the only thing he could think of was to kill Thanos.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Look who is asking, one of those Thanos-wanking idiots.If the silver bullet sentence would have been the only one Drax said, then yes, probably, but Drax said far more then just that and judging by his entire explanation, there is nothing that hints out that he has the special ability to kill Thanos.
His only special ability was to track the presence of Thanos.
He was clearly talking about the purpose. [b]That was the very first sentence he mentioned. That it would be his purpose to kill Thanos. His last sentence was that his mind would finally find peace after he would acomplish that.
Not hard to imagine if someone enconded the urge to kill Thanos within his genetic structure, so that the only thing he could think of was to kill Thanos.At first, no I don't think that, but judging by my awesome intelligence someone like you should rely on my opinion, since I'm obviously smarter then Quanchi, Nihilist and you combined.
And Greg Pak stated that if WW Hulk would not have been stopped, that he would have continued with his rampage and went straight ahead to guys like Thanos and destroyed them too.
But something like that was never written in the comic book, so who the **** cares? Not even one reader should care about that, since writers opinions also don't matter, if they're not on panel.The same applies for other scenarios, like the Siege. Bendis also stated in an interview that Void was vastly more powerful than Thor and that the only reason the heroes were able to defeat him, was that Robert wanted to die in the end.
Yet that was never written on the panel and Bendis specifically didn't want someone like Spider-Woman to say: "Oh boy, if he didn't allow us to kill him, we would have never been able to defeat him."
Yet that's what happened in the comic anyway, even though no one ever said it or hinted it out and your low life buddy Quanchi likes to ride on that on a lot.But that's not the only case. The same applies also for other instances, where Bendis did something crazy and said that Ares and Thor are equals and that Ares could be more powerful
Do we trust that statement, simply because Bendis said it, the guy who was writing the characters? No we don't, since NOTHING has ever shown us Ares being on pair with Thor.http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=136756
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t528981.htmlNothing has ever shown us in the comics that Drax had some special advantages over Thanos, despite being simply more powerful and taking him down, but we have shown Drax using his aura to amp himself and get past other hard odds and not just using it to face Thanos.
It does not matter what a writer / editor / what so ever tells you, since they often don't know shit.
It's important what we see on panel and even that is very debatable sometimes, since PIS / WIS and CIS are all over the place.And it still applies, that the Thanos-squad on this board is a bunch of idiots. [/B]
Concession accepted. That statement CAN mean exactly what we are advocating it can mean. No other statement by drax contradicts that what so ever. Being a silverbullet to a werewolf IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM have I EVER seen that to mean... you have an urge to kill something that you can't control . That is NEVER how I seen that statement used. It's used however, countless times in fact, to describe something or somebody having a specific weakness towards something or somebody.
Your Intelligence..... BWAHAHAHA.. As I said in another thread, I really think you're just trying to be funny sometimes. I haven't seen any amount of intelligence that puts you beyond that of a freshman in high school.
Concession Accepted AGAIn that your opinion IS NOT as important as the editor and chief of Marvel. Glad we agree on that point. Thus, his comments on a BOOK HE EDITED and APPROVED is more valuable than yours. We agree.
Furthermore, please show me the times Drax exhibited a green aura in any past encounter with Thanos. Now, I know you're bullshitting with that statement. That was the first time it was shown in comics and Andy Schmidt SPECIFICALLY commented on it.... Drax exhibits a green aura when he's around thanos that TURNS OFF HIS NATURAL ETERNAL POWERS OF MOLECULAR CONTROL. Yet somehow, that isn't good enough for you. Your examples fall very short in many ways.. the examples you cited were talking about WHAT IF's... What Andy schmidt was talking about WASN'T A WHAT IF.. He was talking directly and specifically about what we SAW in the comic and commenting on it. Those examples are worlds apart from the one we are talking about. No amount of idiociy on your part changes that fact.
BTW... Here is the quote from Andy Schmidt
"Yes. That is what happened. Essentially (and no, I'm never going to say this in an actual comic book because it's too on the nose) part of Drax's programming is to continue to modify/improve/update his power-set until he gets the job done. He's had powers that were ineffective in the past (power blasts and flight) and so he was reconfigured in the cacoon with the right combination of elements to kill Thanos. He lost the ineffective ones, repaired his mind, and built in some new ones that are more effective on Thanos and his force field and such. All of that coupled with Thanos being distracted led to Thanos' demise."
his comments can be found here http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-114874.html
and there are also his comments about Drax's green aura turning off Thanos's natural eternal powers of molecular control. Which is consistent with NEVER EVER has someone went through Thanos like butter EXCEPT DRAX. He's been hit been being exponentionally more powerful than Drax and nothing close to that has happened. Hmmmmmm narration and artistic depiction being back up by the Editor and Chief of Marvel... Game over
^ I'm not the only one no this board who is calling you Thanos-lovers stupid. If I would be the only one, then I would clearly think about my behaviour and so on. Ask myself if I'm doing something wrong, but after all the reading and also the opportunity to see how people like Quanchi, Nihilist and you act like when it comes to Thanos,
... then no. I don't take you serious at all. I am not narrow-minded at all, but right now - because of this disgusting, yet miserable bias towards Thanos of you guys, where you put him above people like Tyrant, Skyfathers and so on, even though he clearly lost these fights ... I'm starting to automatically deny most of the stuff you throw at me instantly, without even trying to think about it.
But that does not apply for this particular instance, since the fact still remains, that Drax never had any advantages over Thanos, besides being able to track him through the universe. Nothing has ever been stated on panel and if you ask person XYZ who does not interpret as much into a simply, yet not sole silver bullet comparison as much as you Thanos-loving morons do, then that person is going to say the same thing to you:
Thanos lost, because he was weaker, and not because Drax had fancy advantages over him, which were basically never stated on panel and were made legit.
And feel free to open a thread and ask the people what they think about your intelligence, or Quanchi's or what the hell do I know. Ask them who they think seems to be smarter and more reasonable. You idiots, or me. I bet that it's going to stand 3:0 for you three guys, but then I would expect the people to start laughing and having a pretty good time, since your Thanos does not win in battles, where he is outclassed and the same applies for you morons, since basically nearly everyone on this board makes fun of you.
Show me any place where I said Thanos beats Tyrant or Odin please. Don't lump me in with others just because I like Thanos as well. I know his limitations and say so all the time.
Concession Accepted. Andy's comments carry more weight than yours on the matter. You claimed Drax always had this green aura... well then post the scans please. Fact is, he didn't. Fact is, being a silverbullet has NEVER EVER meant you have the urge to kill someone you can't control. It means something is weak to something specifically but not weak to most everything else. That is always what that analogy means and only someone as desperate and idiotic as you would say other wise. For God's sake I posted the link to the length question and answers of Andy where he SPECIFICALLY talks about Drax GAINING NEW ABILITIES TO GET THE JOB DONE THAT HE NEVER HAD BEFORE. Yet you go, he gained no new abilties or powers. Are you stupid or just blind. He lost his ability to fly and fire blasts you moron so clearly he was gaining and losing abilities which Andy schmidty talked about in the quote I posted. So clearly, that right there proves your statment wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. He was losing and gaining abilties to get the job done against Thanos. Andy schmidt confirmed what we saw on panel. Concession accepted like always kid.
Originally posted by EnzeruIt's explained on panel and you didn't get it but let Andy illuminate what I already previously stated in his own words.
I'm going to paste/copy my text, since I don't bother that much to explain it to you in your language. Maybe you will understand it, if you read few times through it.If the silver bullet sentence would have been the only one Drax said, then yes, probably, but Drax said far more then just that and judging by his entire explanation, there is nothing that hints out that he has the special ability to kill Thanos.
His only special ability was to track the presence of Thanos.
Here's the question posed from pendaran a little up on the same page.
Pendaran
11-08-2006, 03:16 PM
Hey Andy,I don't suppose you can hint at if we'll get any explination for why Drax was able to kill Thanos this time despite his previous couple of failures in direct attempts at trying? I'm not going to rant or rave about it personally, but I would hope we get something.
He was clearly talking about the purpose. That was the very first sentence he mentioned. That it would be his purpose to kill Thanos. His last sentence was that his mind would finally find peace after he would acomplish that. Not hard to imagine if someone enconded the urge to kill Thanos within his genetic structure, so that the only thing he could think of was to kill Thanos.
Andy Schmidt 11-08-2006, 09:57 PM Hey Andy, I don't suppose you can hint at if we'll get any explination for why Drax was able to kill Thanos this time despite his previous couple of failures in direct attempts at trying? I'm not going to rant or rave about it personally, but I would hope we get something. He was built to destroy Thanos. I thought we covered it in today's issue. We put it as simply as possible--something about him being a silver bullet. And the closer he got to Thanos, the more focused on Thanos he became and the more that "silver bullet" ability/thing powered up.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-114874-p-8.html
That's as cut and dry as you can get. How does it feel to be completely wrong and unable to comprehend when a marvel editor of this flat out explains what exactly happened. All those who doubted my words can stew in their own failure.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Show me any place where I said Thanos beats Tyrant or Odin please. Don't lump me in with others just because I like Thanos as well. I know his limitations and say so all the time.
You too are overhyping many of the enemies Thanos faced who were weaker versions then other people faced recently.
Additionally to that you entirely ignored few statements which put Thanos on his place in terms of strenght and especially the speed, since he was portrayed as not being able to tag Captain Marvel in combat, who was moving to fast for him.
But instead you come up with showings of Thanos which basically don't matter at all, like the Fallen One instance, where Fallen One didn't really use much of his speed. He started flying towards Thanos and got attacked and the same happened to the Silver Surfer. No biggie.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Concession Accepted. Andy's comments carry more weight than yours on the matter. You claimed Drax always had this green aura... well then post the scans please. Fact is, he didn't. Fact is, being a silverbullet has NEVER EVER meant you have the urge to kill someone you can't control. It means something is weak to something specifically but not weak to most everything else. That is always what that analogy means and only someone as desperate and idiotic as you would say other wise.
At first, you don't accept anything, you moron.
I also never said that my opinion matters when it comes to statements in comic books, which are not official. The same applies even for writers. If we would go by statements, then Ares would be as powerful as Thor, which he isn't since it was never portrayed that way.
It's also not a fact that a silver bullet is supposed to be [insert random bullshit here]...
Thanos didn't only mention the Silver Bullet. He mentioned so much more and the most weight had the statement with the purpose, since that's what everything was about. His purpose to kill Thanos and his will to end it in the end. The silver bullet is just a small area from the text you took out, to prove a point, which has never been written to be that way.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
For God's sake I posted the link to the length question and answers of Andy where he SPECIFICALLY talks about Drax GAINING NEW ABILITIES TO GET THE JOB DONE THAT HE NEVER HAD BEFORE. Yet you go, he gained no new abilties or powers.
For your Dog's sake, I don't care about the answers of Andyboy, since they don't matter. If they're not on panel, they don't matter, since they're only opinions which are not official.
Drax had the ability to sense Thanos. Later on he gained the ability to sense the presence of people who were in contact with Thanos and he was even able to sense slightly into the future and know where Thanos would be.
There was never stated, that he had any special abilities, which overcame Thanos power. Drax was simply ridiculously resilent and strong. Period.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He lost his ability to fly and fire blasts you moron so clearly he was gaining and losing abilities which Andy schmidty talked about in the quote I posted. So clearly, that right there proves your statment wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. He was losing and gaining abilties to get the job done against Thanos. Andy schmidt confirmed what we saw on panel. Concession accepted like always kid.
Once again, you don't accept shit, you moron. Accept a job from Mc Donalds to order your life, or something.
Drax never ever gained the ability to be the silver bullet to Thanos. He was simply more powerful, that's all. He was able to sense him, he was able to sense him even further, yes that were his abilities. He lost his flight and strenght and so on, yes. We saw all that.
But we never saw him simply being Draxynite to Super-Thanos. He never had that ability. He had the purpose to kill Thanos and he did that. He killed Thanos.
And now go and wash yourself.
Just like I predicted when a marvel editor of an event answered a question which backed up a clear cut statement and then enzeru denied it and insulted those who disagreed with clear cut proof. That's why it isn't worth the effort when people deny what happened as opposed to what they wished happened on panel.
My favorite part of andy's comments is when he says I thought we covered that in today's issue. It was painfully obvious yet someone demanded an editor as proof and then when supplied denied it just the same.
Ps. I told you all I read it. It feels good to be proven 100 percent right.