Infinity Gems vs Cosmic Containment Units....

According to Thanos himself (during the Infinity War), The Magus possessed power "just short" of those of the Infinity Gauntlet while in possession of the 5 Cosmic Containment Unit's...

So according to Thanos, 5 CCU's="just short" of the 6 Infinity Gems...

Now with that stated, would 6 CCU's equal or surpass the power of the 6 Infinity Gems?

Feel free to explain why you feel the way you do pertaining to this...thanx! 🙂

Edit: The 6 Infinity Gems are used in unison as pertains this thread and form the IG; just incase that isnt clear...

Words are cheap. On panel, the IG was/is far more impressive than the CCUs.

Originally posted by zopzop
Words are cheap. On panel, the IG was/is far more impressive than the CCUs.

Well seeing as how Thanos has weilded both the 6 Infinity Gems and a CCU, I think he would be qualified to make that statement...wouldnt he?

One Gem vs one CCU should go to the CCU.

This is what I know about the Gems:
It is the Power Gem that makes all of the Gems work at high infinite levels, so altogether, one or many CCU's would be trumped.

I would love to see what Mr. Master, ZopZop, and the other Cosmic Guru posters thoughts are to this subject as it progresses.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well seeing as how Thanos has weilded both the 6 Infinity Gems and a CCU, I think he would be qualified to make that statement...wouldnt he?

And the crazy thing is, he accomplished far more using the IG than the CCU.

To put it another way, the Magus forgot all about the CCUs once he had the IG. He even commented how much easier it was to phase his two universes together with the INCOMPLETE IG than it was using his FIVE CCUs.

Even the CCUs biggest "feat", putting Eternity in a coma, was just an illusion. Since he showed up, no worse for wear, with Infinity and proceeded to beat the crap out of Magus.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]One Gem vs one CCU should go to the CCU.

This.

Originally posted by zopzop
And the crazy thing is, he accomplished far more using the IG than the CCU.

To put it another way, the Magus forgot all about the CCUs once he had the IG. He even commented how much easier it was to phase his two universes together with the INCOMPLETE IG than it was using his FIVE CCUs.

Even the CCUs biggest "feat", putting Eternity in a coma, was just an illusion. Since he showed up, no worse for wear, with Infinity and proceeded to beat the crap out of Magus.

This doesnt contradict what Thanos said; Thanos said the 5 CCU's were inferior to the IG..."just short" to be exact....and, of course, the IG doesnt kill you when used directly (as the CCU's would; thats why the Magus manipulated them with tech instead of direct use).

Well if 5 CCU's are just short of the IG, shouldnt 6 CCU's equal or surpass the IG?

It would not. In Infinity Crusade, the Goddess collected 30 CCUs, but it was still considered to fall short of the IG.

@zopzop

Didnt the Magus also use th 5 CCU's to hide from the LT? That seems to be a better feat than placing Eternity in a coma...

Of course its actually one huge feat as the 5 CCU's were powerful to hide from the LT, place Eternity in a coma, blast Galactus to bits, and prevent the UN from firing...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This doesnt contradict what Thanos said; Thanos said the 5 CCU's were inferior to the IG..."just short" to be exact....and, of course, the IG doesnt kill you when used directly (as the CCU's would; thats why the Magus manipulated them with tech instead of direct use).

Well if 5 CCU's are just short of the IG, shouldnt 6 CCU's equal or surpass the IG?

You put too much faith into Thanos' words as opposed to what was shown on panel LoM. Magus himself commented on how much more powerful the INCOMPLETE (missing the Reality Gem) IG was compared to his 5 CCUs and then proceeded to show us on panel that it wasn't a BS statement.

On panel proof >>>>>>>>>>>character statements.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@zopzop

Didnt the Magus also use th 5 CCU's to hide from the LT? That seems to be a better feat than placing Eternity in a coma...

Of course its actually one huge feat as the 5 CCU's were powerful to hide from the LT, place Eternity in a coma, blast Galactus to bits, and prevent the UN from firing...

Hiding from the LT isn't much of a feat. You have people that have actually cause the LT to retreat (Korvac) or beat him out right (Reed). Even though those were alt reality showings, they count as far as the LT is concerned.

Eternity was never truly in a coma, he showed up with Infinity and proceeded to own the Magus.

Blasting Galactus to bits is nice but the IG can do that and more. Shown on panel too.

I'll have to look up the UN bit. I have the issues.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It would not. In Infinity Crusade, the Goddess collected 30 CCUs, but it was still considered to fall short of the IG.

The strength of a CCU is directly proportional to the willpower of its user...

According to Mephisto, a single CCU is all-power if compelled to break its self imposed inhibitions by a will more powerful than its own...

Didnt Thanos (with a single CCU) take Eternity's place?

If anything, it seems:

Thanos's will>>The Magus will>>The Goddess will...as pertains getting the most out of a CCU.

The Magus admits he's doomed if Warlock gets the IG to function :

Magus' adapts to omnipotence faster than either Warlock or Thanos (there goes that "will" argument)

CCUs compared to the INCOMPLETE IG :

Originally posted by zopzop
The Magus admits he's doomed if Warlock gets the IG to function :

Magus' adapts to omnipotence faster than either Warlock or Thanos (there goes that "will" argument)

CCUs compared to the INCOMPLETE IG :

Adapting to omnipotence does not equate to possessing greater will power; you dont have to force the IG to do things against their will...but you must do this with CCU's.

And once again, Thanos stated that the 5 CCU's were inferior to the IG; this thread involves a 6th CCU...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Adapting to omnipotence does not equate to possessing greater will power; you dont have to force the IG to do things against their will...but you must do this with CCU's.

And once again, Thanos stated that the 5 CCU's were inferior to the IG; this thread involves a 6th CCU...

On panel, Magus accomplished more with 5 Infinity Gems than with 5 CCUs. Thanos accomplished more with the IG than he did with a CCU. Magus with 5 CCUs admits he's dead if Warlock gets the Gauntlet functioning.

Originally posted by zopzop
On panel, Magus accomplished more with 5 Infinity Gems than with 5 CCUs. Thanos accomplished more with the IG than he did with a CCU. Magus with 5 CCUs admits he's dead if Warlock gets the Gauntlet functioning.

And once again, the CCU's are only as powerful as your willpower forces them to be...

Thanos accomplished with a sole CCU (actually more as he took Eternity's place) than Magus did with 5...

To further that, even with an inferior will, Magus was able to come "just short" of the IG's power with 5 of them...add a 6th and I honestly dont think its a certainty that the IG is stronger.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The strength of a CCU is directly proportional to the willpower of its user...

According to Mephisto, a single CCU is all-power if compelled to break its self imposed inhibitions by a will more powerful than its own...

Didnt Thanos (with a single CCU) take Eternity's place?

I disagree with the idea that the five CCU was "just short of the IG". Magus, who used both directly one after the other, said the IG was way, way more powerful; it completed the universal merger in a second, which would have taken hours under the five CCUs. And the kicker is, that IG only had five gems. With the full set, the gap would be wider still.

Remember the Chaos Engine Trilogy hmm

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

According to Thanos himself (during the Infinity War),
The Magus possessed power "just short" of those of the Infinity
Gauntlet while in possession of the 5 Cosmic Containment Unit's...

So according to Thanos, 5 CCU's="just short" of the 6 Infinity Gems...

Now with that stated, would 6 CCU's equal or surpass the power of the 6 Infinity Gems?

So this entire scenario is not plausible.