I had to go through a shit load of images to find these old scans of Garthan Saal. Hope the image quality is ok. Goodnight gents.
Supernova...
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Surfer...
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Originally posted by dmills
I had to go through a shit load of images to find these old scans of Garthan Saal. Hope the image quality is ok. Goodnight gents.Supernova...
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/picsay-1331791849.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1331791915854.jpgSurfer...
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http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/ANH3-1.jpg
Originally posted by Galan007It his. According to him, if Silver Surfer encountered the Justice League + some extra guys, they would be dead within the first 1/100000th of a nano-second. That was his claim a while back.
Wow. Your definition of an 'average' Surfer is a LOT different than mine. Whatevs, no reason to go any further.
It was something about blasting down two GLs simultanously, meanwhile while turning his entire body to Kryptonite and twisting Flashes head off, and that was just for starters. A fraction of the time listed above.
On another note, you and Bieb crack me up. 😄
Originally posted by Digi
It's just item #76 that shows how comic Surfer and forum Surfer are two different entities. That's been true forever. Fact remains he has the most varied and best feats in his tier, but he's never ever going to be written using more than 1-2 powers in any given fight.
Originally posted by Juntai
It his. According to him, if Silver Surfer encountered the Justice League + some extra guys, they would be dead within the first 1/100000th of a nano-second. That was his claim a while back.It was something about blasting down two GLs simultanously, meanwhile while turning his entire body to Kryptonite and twisting Flashes head off, and that was just for starters. A fraction of the time listed above.
On another note, you and Bieb crack me up. 😄
Originally posted by janus77
but wait...
superman's like ... really fast too and and shoots eye beams!truly, Surfer's too fast and powerful for half the JLA to remain living after the first 1/100000th of a nano-second.
GLs are going to achieve sod-all against Surfer, he absorbed the blummin' Oan central battery and was but a little dazed by that vast amount of energy. and he's been upgraded since then, as well as given to greater use of his powers.
what's Flash going to do really? out-run surfer? first time Surfer tags him, and he will, end of fight for Flash.
CA is how Surfer knows all he needs know about ALL the JLA, what their energies are, their cellular structure, their weaknesses etc etc ...
if Surfer wanted to get creative, he could simply take Thor into the microverse and there give Thor the Power Cosmic too, as well as resynthesis the Odin Force and add it to his own powers, return to the normal universe (without a second having passed) and obliterate the JLA with 1000000x C hammer strikes.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
n this argument if we put away sentiment for particular characters and groups and simply analyze this fight based on the powers of the characters it is clear that thor and surfer have a good chance of winning and the key is the surfer. On the entire JLA roster presented their are only two real threats (Gls) and one possible but minor threat (MM). Note that the surfer i am describing is one that is not afraid to use his powers to their full potential( sort of like the superman commonly used on this forum) so pls no arguments bringing up situations where the surfer forgot half of his powers should be used. Also arguments that the JLA have defeated more powerful characters than the surfer without taking into consideration the actual events plot twists and circumstances in those fights should also not be used as they are myopic just plain stupid.The two main factors that will determine whther the surfer and thor can pull this out are
1. Does the team have enough powers
2. How fast can they get the job doneIn reply to question one the answer is yes, the surfer alone has enough powers to finish off majority of the above mentioned justice league save the two gls. Superman WW, Batman and flash really are non factors in this fight as the surfer could take all of them out in quick succession in multiple ways. Superman has no chance in hell as surfer could screw with his energies really easily. Wonderwoman would be encased in ethel energy(the same material as his board) and would be done for. The flash and batman are completely helpless. I read somwhere something about the flashes IMP punch doing damage to the surfer. Lets imagine the surfer hitting the flash at light speed. Actually the flash can never get through the surfers force fields no matter what he does. Plus the surfer has sub molecular control. He could on a whim wreck both the flash and batmans molecular structure threby eliminating dem from d fight.
MM is a bit trickier as he is a great telepath but the surfer could KO him with a powerful enough hit(He has koed the hulk) from his board or one of my favourites trap him inside the boardIn reply to the second question, how fast can surfer eliminate the other characters aside the gls, he can do it pretty quickly considering that he is far faster than every character here except maybe the flash. Considering that this surfer i am talking about is fighting to his full potential he certainly is not going to dilly dally and allow people much slower dan him to hit im( i.e thing, hulk)
simultaneously all in a matter of seconds threby displaying fantastic non straight line speed and manoeuverability and even hit a being that telports in before he landed during battle. I also read somwhere hear dat superman can move thousands or even millions of time the speed of light. Even if this is true the surfer moves on a different level of speed and is still much faster than superman( 500000 light ears in seconds), searched the entire 616 Universe in seconds) If the surfer fights at the speed which admittedly
He will display the speed that allowed him to fly to almost every capital city in the world and [B]ATTACK
he rarely has but( which is mostly due to the lack of need to) but certainly can then he certainly can eliminate majority of this team pretty quickly and have time to assist thor who would be fighting the two gls ( of course he cant win) but will at least be able to hold on until SS comes to provide assistance.Now this is d final stage of d fight and it will be 2 on two thor and ss vs the two gls. SS is greater than any gl as he has
1. a greater power source
2. Has d slight edge in amount of powers
3. Can last longer without his power short circuiting or running out bcs of over usage or as i have recently heard running out of time
4. Is physically on par with superman and is faster than the glsThor IMO is on par with a gl powerwise but can certainly take out kyle(over 5000 years of experience compared to kyle an inexperienced gl) while the surfer takes out hal, However this part of the fight is going to be a cataclysmic battle and thor and surfer winning depends on how fast the surfer rips through the other memebers of the league.
The gls could howver attempt to protect the other memebers of their team but that would distract them from the main fight and leave dem open to attack.
All of the above descriptions of the surfer are while he is going all out ( no jobbing or PIS or CIS ) so pls no counter arguments bringing up
the showings that he did not use his powers to the fullest as they would be utterly absurd i.e armbar from black pantherThor and surfer may or may not take the majority (IMO they will) but they certainly can take a few fights as the surfer is leaps and bounds ahead of most if not all the JLA members powerwise. [/B]
Originally posted by Digi#1 That's simply not true.
It's just item #76 that shows how comic Surfer and forum Surfer are two different entities. That's been true forever. Fact remains he has the most varied and best feats in his tier, but he's never ever going to be written using more than 1-2 powers in any given fight.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
#1 That's simply not true.
So, comic-book Surfer flies around attacking in nanosecond increments with planet-busting blasts, black hole generation in peoples' brains, and instantaneous matter manipulation, and can reform himself from atoms easily? That's as true as Thor creating an absorption bubble around him to counter all energy attacks, while casting multi-directional magic lightning at all foes and transmuting them into air (all within his feats).
There's two versions of most characters here on KMC. Thor's another classic example, since he brawls 99% of the time in his comics and gets hurt by stuff he could easily absorb. Surfer's not the only victim, just one of the more noticeable ones.
^ Let me be more specific, the underlined part is simply not true:
Originally posted by Digi
It's just item #76 that shows how comic Surfer and forum Surfer are two different entities. That's been true forever. Fact remains he has the most varied and best feats in his tier, but he's never ever going to be written using more than 1-2 powers in any given fight.
Oh, ok, fair enough. It was to make a point. You can probably find exceptions to the 1-2 powers rule for a lot of characters, Surfer included. It's depressingly true for a LOT of versatile characters, though, but indicative of the disconnect between debates and comics.
I bust out absorption-bubble, lightning action Thor when debates with him get absurd. It's fun. And it also sounds like an action figure:
"NEW FROM HASBRO! ABSORPTION-BUBBLE THOR! NOW WITH AWESOME LIGHTNING ACTION!"
Duh-na-na-na-na *driving bland guitar riff*
^ I share your sentiments more than you might know. I might be more strict, even. For instance, I have never once seen J'onn use his telepathy + invisibility + intangibility + superspeed in tandem ever. Like not once. But that's usually how he's presented in vs. threads.
And I simply scoff. I'm not going to say J'onn cannot do all of that simultaneously -- as I've not read anything that suggests he is limited to manifesting only 1-2 powers at a time in an Ultra Boy-fashion. But I won't take for granted that he would or even do it consistently enough to matter for purposes of discussion.
