Sundipped Superman VS Worldbreaker Hulk

Originally posted by Diesldude
This.. 👆

This is what I see happening -
Hulk punches superman, the planet is wasted, the moon is cracked, the hulk is vaporized and superman YAWNS. Remember there is no wishing well to reform the hulk here.

Or, he superman can use his super speed and is never shown on panel. Hulk stands there with a stupid look duh, where did he go. Next thing you know the hulk is missing an arm, then the other and then his head is twisted off. Hulk dies 10/10

Hulk TANKED the planetary+ attack with a smile on his face...what are you talking about? He then wished everyone back after tanking it. How powerful is an amped Superman punch?

Originally posted by carver9
You cant just look at one side of this battle. Savage Hulk has ripped through material strong enough to withstand Celestial attacks. Mindless Hulk has ripped through Onslaught armor as if it was tissue paper and the list continues but his strength paled to WWH. WWH koed Zom Strange, held planet Skaar together, was throwing punches so powerful against Extremis it was felt across the planet. Threw punches against Skaar that it was causing planetary destruction, was creating planetary level Earth Quakes by just ramming his ft into the ground...tanked a punch that created a nuclear explosion, thunder clapped a Herald and koed him, almost koed another Herald leveler with a thunderclap...he did this all while being at WWH level and his strength paled in comparison to WBH...the strength gap was so different that WBH himself admitted he was basically just holding back.

Even though the fts youve named are all nice and dandy...its not enough. WWH (not WBH) is arguably stronger than Doomsday and Doomsday was ripping through those probes. I see no reason why Hulk couldn't. The Probes does have nice showings against the JLA but some were also at a different power level than others and have showings that just outright proves that you are overestimating them imo.

This chain doesn't stop though. Hulk was still getting stronger at WBH levels. Superman isn't winning this fight.

That level of strength+that level of speed+that level of HV. Hulk has NO chance. At all.

Originally posted by Sirius77
A weak blast? It was a nuclear detonation. The nuclear detonation was not intended to destroy the probe, just to crack it so that Black Lightning could use his most powerful attack to destroy it from the inside. Re-read it. Or rather, read it for the first time.

Looking at pictures isn't reading man....

Can you stop saying I didn't read it and even if what you said is true (which it isn't)...it got destroyed by a baby nuke-blast. The blast did more than crack the shell, it destroyed the probe.

Originally posted by Galan007
If Superman was able to nearly rip Darkseid in half (literally) just by moving close to the sun, he'd certainly be able to do the same to Hulk... Especially with a full-fledged sunDIP.

That level of strength+that level of speed+that level of HV. Hulk has NO chance. At all.

I disagree and using Darkseid as an example to say what Superman can do to a being that smiled at Heralds attacking him and planets exploding on him is insane. Hulk also has a healing factor that tends to heal him instantly from holes bring punched through him at a weaker state.

Darkseids smiled at heralds attacking him too.

Originally posted by cdtm
Darkseids smiled at heralds attacking him too.

Lol...that version of Darkseid would mop the floor with Hulk and Superman at the same time with his eyes closed.

Originally posted by carver9
Can you stop saying I didn't read it and even if what you said is true (which it isn't)...it got destroyed by a baby nuke-blast. The blast did more than crack the shell, it destroyed the probe.

You didn't read the scan, OWAW, or my post apparently. It stated plainly that the nuclear blast was intended to crack the shell just enough for Black Lightning to detonate it from the inside out.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok...too many people don't know this but "heat doesn't do ANYTHING to Hulk". Superman heat vision isn't stopping him and even if it did pierce Hulk (which is very unlikely), Hulk will heal almost instantly. A weaker Hulk was getting holes punched through him by Zom Strange and these wounds healed in "one panel".

The difference between both of these characters showings is, Hulk has actually ripped through Herald with ease...without even suffering a scratch. Superman rarely fought in this form (minus his fight against Brainiac robots). The only reason I'm unsure on this battle is due to Superman tanking entropy. His durability against blast at this level was insane and the same gls for Hulk...his durability at this level is insane but I think Hulks fist would drop him (not easily though).

As for your comment about speed....hahahahaha...Hulk IS hitting Superman. This isn't even debatable.

You are grasping at straws at this point.

WBH isn't TOUCHING this Superman. Everything is at full power, speed, strength, reflexes, invulnerability. He isn't going to reason with WBH. He isn't showing mercy or compassion.

OWAW Sundipped Superman is blasting holes in the Hulk while the Green beast can't even register where he is. He is launching him into orbit and roasting the rest of the green bits there.

There is NO chance that the Hulk even survives the confrontation much less wins.

As to heat, Gladiator BLASTED A HOLE THROUGH THE HULK'S TORSO!

What was Gladiator using there red tinted frost vision?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn

As to heat, Gladiator BLASTED A HOLE THROUGH THE HULK'S TORSO!

What was Gladiator using there red tinted frost vision?

This is a good point.

Exposed Hulks heart, too.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You are grasping at straws at this point.

WBH isn't TOUCHING this Superman. Everything is at full power, speed, strength, reflexes, invulnerability. He isn't going to reason with WBH. He isn't showing mercy or compassion.

OWAW Sundipped Superman is blasting holes in the Hulk while the Green beast can't even register where he is. He is launching him into orbit and roasting the rest of the green bits there.

There is NO chance that the Hulk even survives the confrontation much less wins.

As to heat, Gladiator BLASTED A HOLE THROUGH THE HULK'S TORSO!

What was Gladiator using there red tinted frost vision?

Show me WBH getting holes blown through him. WBH withstood an explosion that had enough power to shed multiple planets and he did it with a smile. Heat isn't doing anything to him.

Now let me try the screaming thing you did...GLADIATOR FOUGHT A WEAKENED HULK...A HULK THAT LOST HALF OF HIS POWER...THE SAME HULK THAT FOUGHT DEADPOOL AND GOT STABBED IN THE HEART BY A FREAKIN TELEPHONE POLE. That was fun.

There isn't a single showing during his Sundip that proves he can take out a Hulk THIS powerful.

Originally posted by cdtm
This is a good point.

Exposed Hulks heart, too.

I agree...Superman can beat a weakened Hulk. Good point.

LOL at heat doing nothing to him

Being perfectly fair, I do think strength and durability are basically a wash. It's everything else Superman brings to the table that enables him to win.

Even though you are wrong Jake...good to see ya buddy.

Wrong that strength and durability are a wash? Or wrong in that the other abilities of Superman nets him the victory?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wrong that strength and durability are a wash? Or wrong in that the other abilities of Superman nets him the victory?

I agree with the strength and durability but the rest...I just disagree with. Lets leave as is and agree to disagree.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me WBH getting holes blown through him. WBH withstood an explosion that had enough power to shed multiple planets and he did it with a smile. Heat isn't doing anything to him.

Now let me try the screaming thing you did...GLADIATOR FOUGHT A WEAKENED HULK...A HULK THAT LOST HALF OF HIS POWER...THE SAME HULK THAT FOUGHT DEADPOOL AND GOT STABBED IN THE HEART BY A FREAKIN TELEPHONE POLE. That was fun.

There isn't a single showing during his Sundip that proves he can take out a Hulk THIS powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with the strength and durability but the rest...I just disagree with. That's leave as is and agree to disagree.

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Originally posted by Uriel005
wow carver I'm surprised you would cite that one seems a bit of a lowball for the hulk to even be damaged by a telephone pole considering the pole should shatter before piercing his heart.

Hulk was weakened. He also have other low showings as well during this era. His durability was basically gone.

Once again carver is not reading comics. Hulk vs gladiator happened in Hulk annual 1997 just after DC VS MARVEL and it was professor hulk. The incident with deadpool happened after onslaught saga and taking in account that it was narrated by deadpool may not be true at all and it was bannerless hulk. How does carvy lie so much?