Sundipped Superman VS Worldbreaker Hulk

Originally posted by Naija boy
If supes uses speed then yeah, otherwise then hulk

Originally posted by carver9
This.

Supes is going to have to be extremely tactical in this fight. If he fights in character...this isn't going to well for him. His mental state wasn't so great in this form...his mind was everywhere.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wrong that strength and durability are a wash? Or wrong in that the other abilities of Superman nets him the victory?

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with the strength and durability but the rest...I just disagree with. Lets leave as is and agree to disagree.

So first, you agree that Superman's speed and tactics would win him the fight....then disagree that he has other abilities besides strength and durability which would win him the fight?

Interesting.

Is Hulk being stabbed by a telephone pole really much of a low showing?

His piercing damage hasn't been equal to his blunt force damage since his invulnerability was retconned as a healing factor. Wolverine carves him up all the time, Skaar shishkabobbed him with some kind of rods.. Pretty sure even bullets leave welts..

Originally posted by cdtm
Is Hulk being stabbed by a telephone pole really much of a low showing?

His piercing damage hasn't been equal to his blunt force damage since his invulnerability was retconned as a healing factor. Wolverine carves him up all the time, Skaar shishkabobbed him with some kind of rods.. Pretty sure even bullets leave welts..

In WWH, adamantium bullets went clean through him. Of course, they were adamantium, but it would seem a normal gun would give it enough force to go through the Hulk. Of course, they may have been special guns...

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with the strength and durability but the rest...I just disagree with. Lets leave as is and agree to disagree.

If strength and durability is a wash, what's the "rest" that the hulk brings to give him the advantage? FTL Superspeed? heatvision?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Once again carver is not reading comics. Hulk vs gladiator happened in Hulk annual 1997 just after DC VS MARVEL and it was professor hulk. The incident with deadpool happened after onslaught saga and taking in account that it was narrated by deadpool may not be true at all and it was bannerless hulk. How does carvy lie so much?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
The crossover isn't in continuity. Gladiator and Deadpool both fought Bannerless Hulk who was dying and rapidly weakening from being separated from Bruce. Using this showing means nothing when WWH took the combined heat of Johnny Storms full-on Nova and Storm's most powerful lightning with no effect.

I think what abhilegend was trying to say was that at the time of Hulk annual 1997, it was Prof. Hulk, as depicted in Marvel vs DC (just as Superman was mullet Superman, Thor was wearing his funky armour etc). Not the greatest example though, I agree.

And I don't think that was Storm's most powerful lightning, if the KMC boards are to be believed lol, but I digress - WWH certainly tanked a very powerful dose of heat there.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think what abhilegend was trying to say was that at the time of Hulk annual 1997, it was Prof. Hulk, as depicted in Marvel vs DC (just as Superman was mullet Superman, Thor was wearing his funky armour etc). Not the greatest example though, I agree.

And I don't think that was Storm's most powerful lightning, if the KMC boards are to be believed lol, but I digress - WWH certainly tanked a very powerful dose of heat there.

IMO Green Scar would beat regular Superman. Take WWH for example, in the end while Sentry did just stand there and go toe to toe with Hulk, he initially tried to keep Hulk off balance and use his speed but it failed. Hulk was able to counter it and take the full brunt of Sentrys power before putting him down. No one has ever exhausted Sentrys power in that fashion, no one, and I don't see Superman beating an all out Sentry as do many others.
I'm not using that as a basis to say Hulk wins here, but the disparity in power between WWH and WBH is probably as great as Supermans when compared to him being sundipped if not more and yet there have been absurd posts such as "Hulk is turned to paste", "Superman one shots him" and "Regular Superman beats WBH this is a spite thread!!!!11".
When Carver makes a claim about Superman that is shall we say less than accurate he is pounced on and yet when the same is done about Hulk for example, this doesn't seem to happen.

Under these stips Supes Destroys!

Originally posted by The Sorrow
I just don't like it when people outright lie to suit their own agendas, fanboy or not.

Agreed. Although, my memory is often hazy so whilst I try not to lie, errors often creep in. Other posters might be the same, so if their posts' tone is not so strident, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

IMO Green Scar would beat regular Superman. Take WWH for example, in the end while Sentry did just stand there and go toe to toe with Hulk, he initially tried to keep Hulk off balance and use his speed but it failed. Hulk was able to counter it and take the full brunt of Sentrys power before putting him down. No one has ever exhausted Sentrys power in that fashion, no one, and I don't see Superman beating an all out Sentry as do many others.

I'm not using that as a basis to say Hulk wins here, but the disparity in power between WWH and WBH is probably as great as Supermans when compared to him being sundipped if not more and yet there have been absurd posts such as "Hulk is turned to paste", "Superman one shots him" and "Regular Superman beats WBH this is a spite thread!!!!11".

Meh, if there is a winner, it certainly won't be through a one-shot. That's just deluded, both on Hulk and Superman fans' part.

When Carver makes a claim about Superman that is shall we say less than accurate he is pounced on and yet when the same is done about Hulk for example, this doesn't seem to happen.

That's because he tries to pass it off as gospel (I have read OWAW 4 times, I know what happened! You're wrong!). In fact, abhi even says that the DEapool incident may not have happened as DEapool was the narrator...

Okay, my mistake. The deadpool incident happened in Deadpool v2 4 and it can be considered as PIS as earlier hulk laughed at bullets from police. It actually happened as wade was given a transfusion of hulk's blood. Gladiator also battled bannerless hulk but he was getting more powerful as his connection to heroes reborn hulk was hinted in that annual. Maybe I've to go re-read my hulk comics. Carver is correct in this instance but I've to disagree with Sorrow with sentry beating kal with punches. Maybe you need to re-read your superman comics if you have any. This stance of "if-a-character-is-hit-by-someone-he-is-getting-hit-here-in-forum" is ridiculous. This isn't cbr but it isn't herochat either. I can easily show you superman toying with mongul with his speed or speedblitzing lobo or cyborg superman or livewire. This isn't your regular superman, when sundipped he just threw his humanity and aimed just to kill. No amount of comic refrences is going to change that once Kal decides, hulk isn't touching him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Being perfectly fair, I do think strength and durability are basically a wash. It's everything else Superman brings to the table that enables him to win.

One of the few serious minded posters int this thread.. 👆Far too much fanboy extremism on KMC nowadays ( both marvel and DC)...smh

Originally posted by Naija boy
One of the few serious minded posters int this thread.. 👆Far too much fanboy extremism on KMC nowadays ( both marvel and DC)...smh

The pot calling the kettle black. Priceless.

^What do you mean?

^ yeah.....right. Go practice ur idiot skills with someone else please...smh

Edit.

Closing before I have to warn several people.

If I see this shit in other threads though, I won't hesitate to warn them then.