Originally posted by abhilegend
^And who oneshotted the same wonder woman not even attacking her in FC 6. Don't call it a high feat. How's anyone touching kal here, he can just vibrate through any of their attack.
Two can play at that game, Thor could surround the team in an impenetrable vortex, and Superman wouldn't be able to get in either. We know that's not the way that any of these guys fight though, we also have no idea if Thor's magics could not hit Superman while in a state of vibration by matching his frequency. It's magic after all. One shotting Wonder Woman isn't going to work against WB Hulk, and then he has to deal with Black Bolt, who like I said before made Gladiator work, and like Superman, he can also vibrate, and fight at hyper speeds. This team would beat Superman. The hill is just too steep.
Originally posted by Uriel005
now this isn't right I think the team does take it.. pretty handily at that I just think that Kal puts up a good fight.
What's World Breaker limit when it comes to even getting an acknowledgement while punching him. WBH was TANKING punches from being that are equal in strength to Savage Hulk who is clearly equal to Superman. He stood there and withstood their attacks as if it was ants punching him.
Anyone on this team can pull wins from Superman...WBH would decimate him imo. This fight isn't fair.
Originally posted by carver9lol no
What's World Breaker limit when it comes to even getting an acknowledgement while punching him. WBH was TANKING punches from being that are equal in strength to Savage Hulk who is clearly equal to Superman. He stood there and withstood their attacks as if it was ants punching him.Anyone on this team can pull wins from Superman...WBH would decimate him imo. This fight isn't fair.
^ Superman has shattered the body of soulfire darkseid who battled soul of orion with half the soulfire formula, koed PC mon el in a single slam, survived source wall exploding, survived a sun eater collapsing on him, survived 50 supernovas while weakened etc. These chumps have no chance of tagging him. We ard talking about a guy who can catch flash and stop professor zoom in mid blitz. Lulz at comparing black bolt and superman's speed. Oh and kal has koed Lobo and Valor simultaneously.
Originally posted by abhilegend
^ Superman has shattered the body of soulfire darkseid who battled soul of orion with half the soulfire formula, koed PC mon el in a single slam, survived source wall exploding, survived a sun eater collapsing on him, survived 50 supernovas while weakened etc. These chumps have no chance of tagging him. We ard talking about a guy who can catch flash and stop professor zoom in mid blitz. Lulz at comparing black bolt and superman's speed. Oh and kal has koed Lobo and Valor simultaneously.
The Lobo head butt into Val yep not impressed. PC has been brought down a peg since the old days. Mon is just not the beast that he was 35 years ago, nor is Validus, and many others. Shattering Soulfire Darkseid's non corporeal frame during DOTNG looked great, but it was not a quantifiable feat, because we can't really tell how durable he was in that state, however he had to be less durable than he was in a normal state, because this is something that Superman could never do when Darkseid was in a normal state. All of the things mentioned are cool and all of that jazz, but the fact still remains that Mjolnir's top flight speeds are greater than Superman's. Superman also can not be in two places at once, not to mention three. If you think he wins against this team you may be tossing a low ball without fully realizing it, because this team has some pretty spectacular feats of their own. Black Bolts power was the reason behind the Fault, that alone should tel you that even vibrating Superman would more than likely be hit by his shout. Like I said before, the hill is simply too steep for him to win.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Lobo head butt into Val yep not impressed. PC has been brought down a peg since the old days. Mon is just not the beast that he was 35 years ago, nor is Validus, and many others. Shattering Soulfire Darkseid's non corporeal frame during DOTNG looked great, but it was not a quantifiable feat, because we can't really tell how durable he was in that state, however he had to be less durable than he was in a normal state, because this is something that Superman could never do when Darkseid was in a normal state. All of the things mentioned are cool and all of that jazz, but the fact still remains that Mjolnir's top flight speeds are greater than Superman's. Superman also can not be in two places at once, not to mention three. If you think he wins against this team you may be tossing a low ball without fully realizing it, because this team has some pretty spectacular feats of their own. Black Bolts power was the reason behind the Fault, that alone should tel you that even vibrating Superman would more than likely be hit by his shout. Like I said before, the hill is simply too steep for him to win.
None of them are touching him.
Originally posted by carver9
Everyone here has omni blast.
But they will have to be careful with Omni blasts not to hit each other.
This isnt one on one after all. Supes speed in a 3 vs 1 could prove more useful than in a one on one situation.
So I say he puts up a better fight than most think here. But he still loses.
Originally posted by h1a8
In a comic Superman gets stomp. Now most of you are going to let me have it but I will say this.Superman's HV at full intensity has been seen to go through Kryptonians (even himself) like paper.
Also, Superman has quantifiable feats of more than 80 Earth weights of force. That's right.
tons. That is a 6 followed by 21 zeros. But more than 80 of them!
1 Earth weight is more than [b] 6 sextillion[/B]
Lol it used to be 50 Earth weights. Having trouble with your maths equations h1a8??
Originally posted by Stoic
Two can play at that game, Thor could surround the team in an impenetrable vortex, and Superman wouldn't be able to get in either. We know that's not the way that any of these guys fight though.
Understood, but the stips of this fight say nothing about CIS with regards to the team, while Superman is using his speed first and foremost. So, granted its not how Superman usually fights, but that's how he is in this scenario.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Understood, but the stips of this fight say nothing about CIS with regards to the team, while Superman is using his speed first and foremost. So, granted its not how Superman usually fights, but that's how he is in this scenario.
In the case of WB Hulk, I doubt that a flurry of Super Speed punches are putting him down. Forces greater than what he shows on average were unable to effect him on a physical level, and I'm not talking about the heavy hits that he took from 3 class 100's, but the destructive impact that was able to turn more than one planet to dust. This battle however hinges on the fact that fighting in tandem with partners may hinder the amount that he can amp, unless Thor shield himself and Black Bolt from the Hulk going completely berserk.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you talking about the same valor who transported a star to another solar system and killed time trapper and was tossing moons at him in that fight? I don't know what would take to impress you. Lulz at lowballing darkseid feat considering he was pwning The source and battled soul of orion with half the soulfire formula undamaged. He can go intangible at willNone of them are touching him.
Soulfire Darkseid's body was composed of an unknown substance, which was not me low balling but stating that it can not be used, because no one knows how tough his body was. Superman himself seemed surprised that he was easily able to fracture him in that way, and fear for Darkseids mortality. I would agree somewhat with you, but Superman has fought Darkseid before this, and knew how hard to generally hit Darkseid under normal conditions. As I said before, this is an unquantifiable feat, because Darkseid under normal conditions would not have shattered from such an impact.
The Lobo & Val head bump was a low showing of both characters involved, which is why I wasn't impressed not that I was low-balling the feat. You know as well as i do that Lobo has a ridiculous damage soak, and should have never been KO'd, by a head shot of this caliber.