the multiverse contains cyttorak's realm and mephisto's. galactus started to devour mephisto's realm and he couldn't do anything to stop him. cyttorak's power re: juggs is NOT limitless. thor was able to turn it off and beat the crap out of juggs. even if that level of 'god' could recreate a creation event in their OWN universe, that would be infinitely smaller than recreating or creating the actual multiverse.
Odin's created his own entire dimension before. His fought for the fate of the Universe when a part of his persona was ravaging Galaxies or whatever and effortlessly repaired all the damage done, his even rocked the Multiverse in battle with Seth etc.
He'd still get whooped by Lucifer, not to mention Cytorrak who's biggest feat is looking creepy while he sits on a throne.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNot the exact comic off the top of my head, but it was during Infinity War, and the Juggs vs Cytorakk feat happened in there.
Lawlz.Mornigstar turns Cytorrak into cranberry juice. His probably in the same tier as Odin and the other high end mystical entities, he doesn't have any feats to suggest that he beats Lucifer.
Does anyone know the comic in which this happened?
I'm willing to bet Colossus' interpretation has a....twist on the events.
But what happened was that huge Cytorakk bands caught the ship, Galactus didn't really give two shits and sent Nova and Strange to investigate it. Which ended up with them encountering Juggs and Cy.
Funny thing is Nova managed to blast away some of the bands... so I don't think you can consider that a good feat for Cytorakk...
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Not the exact comic off the top of my head, but it was during Infinity War, and the Juggs vs Cytorakk feat happened in there.But what happened was that huge Cytorakk bands caught the ship, Galactus didn't really give two shits and sent Nova and Strange to investigate it. Which ended up with them encountering Juggs and Cy.
Funny thing is Nova managed to blast away some of the bands... so I don't think you can consider that a good feat for Cytorakk...
Yeah, I remember someone analyzing the scene and making it clear that it's not anything worth jacking off to.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Cytorrak has got to be one of the most overrated entities I've ever had the displeasure of debating over, which isn't surprising considering who his "herald/champion" is.
i completely agree, he has the title of being an "elder god" so for some uknown reason even with 0 feats he is automatically above odin and all the skyfathers when people debate him, juggernaut beat him up in his own realm frickin juggernaut
Originally posted by Jynocidus
I can see that logically possible, because juggs is only the wielder of the power.Maybe I should ask this: Would the crimson bands of cytorrak subdue Lucifer Morningstar?
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they couldn't hold namor. 😐
hulk has also broken them.
Is there an...embodiment of "magic/force/power" in Marvel or DC? If Cytorrak is the realm, and his power is limitless, why isn't that him? Power and Magic are technically the same, so to magicians and god-likes that means endless magic and what-not.
For some reason, regardless of Cytorrak not having enough feats while still considering (1. his ability to reach through other entities powers to grab Strange, 2. other entities fear him, and 3. powerful demons like zom use his power) I don't see why he's not...capable of being superior to Luci.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Is there an...embodiment of "magic/force/power" in Marvel or DC? If Cytorrak is the realm, and his power is limitless, why isn't that him? Power and Magic are technically the same, so to magicians and god-likes that means endless magic and what-not.For some reason, regardless of Cytorrak not having enough feats while still considering (1. his ability to reach through other entities powers to grab Strange, 2. other entities fear him, and 3. powerful demons like zom use his power) I don't see why he's not...capable of being superior to Luci.
war hulk and thor broke his magic ... anything else?
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they couldn't hold namor. 😐
hulk has also broken them.
Originally posted by blue_beast
war hulk and thor broke his magic ... anything else?
Actually, yeah. Not much more, though.
I was looking around on the net, and came across an interesting Mikaboshi vs Cytorrak discussion on I think CV. Someone there basically made an argument that the Crimson Cosmos powered all the realms pretty much. Multiverses, megaverses, and the like because its power runs throughout all of continuity.
For Cytorrak to have been confined to his own dimension for threatening to destroy all of existence technically means he has the power to do it. Isn't that what Lucifer Morningstar was able to do?
Originally posted by JynocidusOn one hand you're a free thinker and I like that.
Actually, yeah. Not much more, though.I was looking around on the net, and came across an interesting Mikaboshi vs Cytorrak discussion on I think CV. Someone there basically made an argument that the Crimson Cosmos powered all the realms pretty much. Multiverses, megaverses, and the like because its power runs throughout all of continuity.
For Cytorrak to have been confined to his own dimension for threatening to destroy all of existence technically means he has the power to do it. Isn't that what Lucifer Morningstar was able to do?
On the other hand, you're completely out of your mind wrong.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
On one hand you're a free thinker and I like that.On the other hand, you're completely out of your mind wrong.
I appreciate you acknowledging that I think freely.
One hand wash the other, both wash the face lol
But...back to my free thinking, demi-urgic power is still power nonetheless. And if Cytorrak is limitless power (it's definitely not physical power because we're dealing with a mystical being) then why can't we assume that all Luci did was unleash something along the lines of Cytorraks power exotically to achieve such and such feats?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
I think I may be looking at this entirely wrong if some of you think that this is spite in favor of Luci. I'll tell you my perspective:If good and evil are both the same to Cytorrak...I take that as all of heaven and hell are nothing to him. That should include characters like Zadkiel, Mephisto, and even Lucifer Morningstar regardless if he shaped a universe.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong here but I think Cytorrak is also more powerful than LT, however Cytorrak is not vulnerable from the judgement that would keep him in his place, therefore ultimately he is below.
Don't know what you're smoking, but I want some of it.