President Obama just signed off on the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) - which gives power to the president (one man) the authority to arrest any American without due cause.
Anyone who has the slightest understanding of history, such a law should send chills up their spin. This has nothing to so with "terrorism" - just control. The war on terrorism is all propaganda - wake up!
Our civil liberties are being taken away, and we're all just laughing about it - being jovial. C'mon... this isn't right. The President is supposed to protect the US Constitution from foreign and "domestic" enemies!
Most Americans don't even know that our Nation was founded on a Republic:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It
can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote
themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment
on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the
most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy
always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a
dictatorship. The average of the world’s great civilizations before
they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in
this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great
courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from
abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from
complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from
dependency back again to bondage" - Unknown Author
(historically).
If you can't see the cycle, your blind.
Originally posted by ushomefreeSo why aren't you doing something about it?
President Obama just signed off on the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) - which gives power to the president (one man) the authority to arrest any American without due cause.Anyone who has the slightest understanding of history, such a law should send chills up their spin. This has nothing to so with "terrorism" - just control. The war on terrorism is all propaganda - wake up!
Our civil liberties are being taken away, and we're all just laughing about it - being jovial. C'mon... this isn't right. The President is supposed to protect the US Constitution from foreign and "domestic" enemies!
Most Americans don't even know that our Nation was founded on a Republic:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It
can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote
themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment
on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the
most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy
always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a
dictatorship. The average of the world’s great civilizations before
they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in
this sequence: [b]From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great
courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from
abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from
complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from
dependency back again to bondage"
- Unknown Author(historically).
If you can't see the cycle, your blind. [/B]
That's a nonsense, gibberish quote, ushomefree; an old myth that has done the rounds for decades. The amusing bit is the way you put 'historically' at the end to try and give it some respectability despite being utterly unable to attribute it. Before you talk about others being blind, try actually putting some thought into what you post instead of blindly copy/pasting worthless material.
Originally posted by UshgarakThat's a nonsense, gibberish quote, ushomefree; an old myth that has done the rounds for decades. The amusing bit is the way you put 'historically' at the end to try and give it some respectability despite being utterly unable to attribute it. Before you talk about others being blind, try actually putting some thought into what you post instead of blindly copy/pasting worthless material.
The quote, that you so fervently despise - for reasons that escape my mind - is commonly referred to as the "Tytler Cycle." It is also worthy to note, that the word "Tytler" refers to the last name of Alexander Fraser Tytler, whom is commonly attributed to the writing, but this has never been confirmed. And so, I labeled the originator of the quote as "unknown" (historically). Does this make any sense to you? Regardless, I'm absolutely astounded that you lack the wisdom to interpret what is going on in the world today, not to mention the United States. The Tytler Cycle is a slam dunk representation of what's going on in this country. The NDAA is one of many laws passed through Congress (over the past 30 to 40 years) that confirms this, not to mention the ignorance of the American voter and the mind frame of the today's iPod generation.
Originally posted by ushomefree
The Tytler Cycle is a slam dunk representation of what's going on in this country.
Similarly we know that people opposing SOPA will all become Sith Lords because Yoda's quote from Phantom Menace is a slam dunk representation of what's going on.
Well that or we could try forming actual arguments like adults.
Originally posted by ushomefree
Shaky... I love you. Your 100% correct. It's kinda takes things back to Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" doesn't it? Anyway... good to see you on here brother. Whatever happened to Debbiejoe?
She's around... she just has a new name.
So, why are you against it? Keep it simple for me. 😄
Shakyamunison, the most simplistic answer I can give regarding the SOP Act - and why I'm against it - is this: it is a complete governmental takeover of free speech. This bill has absolutely nothing to do with "piracy." The internet is an alternative media source - and it's educating people on their "appointed betters" - and those in power do not like it. In fact, they fear it - because people are waking up to the truth that they are being bamboozled, tricked and conned. Their motive is to have a dumbed down populace, incapable of critical thought, that works and pays taxes and questions nothing. It's all about power and control. Simply said, the powers that be, want us all to be cattle.
Originally posted by ushomefree
Shakyamunison, the most simplistic answer I can give regarding the SOP Act - and why I'm against it - is this: it is a complete governmental takeover of free speech. This bill has absolutely nothing to do with "piracy." The internet is an alternative media source - and it's educating people on their "appointed betters" - and those in power do not like it. In fact, they fear it - because people are waking up to the truth that they are being bamboozled, tricked and conned. Their motive is to have a dumbed down populace, incapable of critical thought, that works and pays taxes and questions nothing. It's all about power and control. Simply said, the powers that be, want us all to be cattle.
I am suppressed you would have that opinion. You do know that the internet is not a bastion of free speech. It is really the work of the devil, and should be shut down. 😉
Originally posted by ushomefree
Although I applaud this thread, since it creates discussion about current events in Washington, it's virtually irrelevant.What you should have posted, is a thread about the bill that President Obama signed into law recently: the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).
Under the NDAA, the president of the US now has the authority to detain and arrest American citizens (indefinitely) - without due process of law guaranteed by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Welcome to a brave new world, indeed.
This is actually the part of the bill that most people cite but isn't really the meat of it. The detention section simply reaffirms legislation passed in 2001 that does not authorize the president to detain US citizens indefinitely.
The scary part of the bill comes later in that it defines the United States as being part of a battlefield in a war on terror which opens the door, theoretically for not just indefinite detention but military tribunals and what the Bush administration would probably have called enhanced methods for enforcing public safety utilizing battlefield tactics at things like meetings and protests of groups allegedly linked to Al Qaeda and terrorists such as...I dunno, live ammunition (well that wouldn't surprise anyone since Reagan used it at Berkely when he was governor), Infrasound and Microwave weapons, chemical weapons, neutron weapons...
When people en masse challenge the corporate masters and a president, any president from a major party has this kind of authority I can't help but think that the results of their actions would ironically make Pol Pot proud.