Obama Seeks Power to Organize Federal Govt

Started by Shakyamunison4 pages
Originally posted by ushomefree
Your pulling my leg, right?

Just a little humor among friends.

It just seems like you would be for regulation of what is a bastion for pornography lawlessness, but people can change. 😄

Me? I want the feds to go away...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Similarly we know that people opposing SOPA will all become Sith Lords because Yoda's quote from Phantom Menace is a slam dunk representation of what's going on.

Well that or we could try forming actual arguments like adults.

Can I order my lightsabre in cerulean?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Just a little humor among friends.

I know Shaky 🙂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It just seems like you would be for regulation of what is a bastion for pornography lawlessness, but people can change.

Perhaps you view the internet differently than I do. I have no comment on your statement, but I will say this: free speech is always a good thing. And by the way... people can not change. Any historian and/or history buff will tell you, that despite advances in technology, man remains the same - there has been no increase in wisdom, just knowledge. The world is a dangerous place; in fact, some would argue, much more dangerous. All these advances in technology, but no increase in wisdom. Humans remain human (at their core). Understand?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Me? I want the feds to go away...

I don't know anyone who would disagree with you. People fundamentally just want to work and take care of their families - and if they have the money, to take a vacation from time to time. People just want to be left alone to live their lives, but megalomaniacs don't care about that.

Originally posted by ushomefree
I know Shaky 🙂

Perhaps you view the internet differently than I do. I have no comment on your statement, but I will say this: free speech is always a good thing. And by the way... people can not change. Any historian and/or history buff will tell you, that despite advances in technology, man remains the same - there has been no increase in wisdom, just knowledge. The world is a dangerous place; in fact, some would argue, much more dangerous. All these advances in technology, but no increase in wisdom. Humans remain human (at their core). Understand?

I don't know anyone who would disagree with you. People fundamentally just want to work and take care of their families - and if they have the money, to take a vacation from time to time. People just want to be left alone to live their lives, but megalomaniacs don't care about that.

I still find it strange that you believe in freedom of speech. Maybe this is the wrong forum, but isn't freedom of speech inconsistent with Christianity? I know that when I was a Christian, we did not believe in freedom of speech, unless you were talking about religous speech.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, although I may disagree with what people say.

Freedom of religion is freedom of religion, although I may disagree with their beliefs.

In any case, what kind of so-called "Christian" church did you go to?

It sounds to me, and excuse my ignorance, that you we're in some sort of cult. Can you elaborate?

Originally posted by ushomefree
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, although I may disagree with what people say.

Freedom of religion is freedom of religion, although I may disagree with their beliefs.

In any case, what kind of so-called "Christian" church did you go to?

It sounds to me, and excuse my ignorance, that you we're in some sort of cult. Can you elaborate?

I'm sorry, but that would be inappropriate. I would be happy to tell you my life's story, but this is nether the place nor time. Please let us stay on the topic.

I will agree, we did not come from the same Christian denomination.

Well maybe you can send me a PM, and I'll reciprocate.

Anyhoo.

Regardless of whatever Christian denomination(s) that you and your church practiced, all denominations hold core tenants of Christianity, and why freedom of speech would become an issue blows my mind.

Regarding freedom of religion in the "Christian" church, we are taught to preach the Word and saving grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We are all sinners and need redemption. If people wish not to listen, let it be.

Did your church practice "legalism?"

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I do not. Though unlike most people on the internet that's because I believe it causes tremendous collateral damage and has little practical effect not because I don't believe in intellectual property.

Can't help yourself being contrarian even if you agree with most people, eh?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Can't help yourself being contrarian even if you agree with most people, eh?

Its not my fault that other people are right for the wrong reasons 😄

Also I just noticed that this thread is now about SOPA and the SOPA thread is now about government power . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Its not my fault that other people are right for the wrong reasons 😄

Also I just noticed that this thread is now about SOPA and the SOPA thread is now about government power . . .

I am not sure if you are right though. Especially Google and Wikipedia protest not for piracy, but against the overreaching powers the government will give itself. Of course everyone that is pro-piracy, is probably against the bill, but I wouldn't say a majority, nor that it is the main focus.

And that is a funny coincidence, as long as the important topics are discussed though, that's pretty good.

Originally posted by ushomefree
We do not need new ideas and reform; we just need our elected representatives to enforce the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. That's it.

yeah but the problem is most of them are bought off and paid for and dont believe in the constitution.so she is right,kick them all out since they are not here to serve us and dont believe in the constitution or the bill of rights.

Originally posted by ushomefree
President Obama just signed off on the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) - which gives power to the president (one man) the authority to arrest any American without due cause.

Anyone who has the slightest understanding of history, such a law should send chills up their spin. This has nothing to so with "terrorism" - just control. The war on terrorism is all propaganda - wake up!

Our civil liberties are being taken away, and we're all just laughing about it - being jovial. C'mon... this isn't right. The President is supposed to protect the US Constitution from foreign and "domestic" enemies!

Most Americans don't even know that our Nation was founded on a Republic:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It

can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote

themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment

on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the

most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy

always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a

dictatorship. The average of the world’s great civilizations before

they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in

this sequence: [b]From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great

courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from

abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from

complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from

dependency back again to bondage" - Unknown Author

(historically).

If you can't see the cycle, your blind. [/B]

some of them want to keep their heads buried in the sand and dont want to wake up as you can tell from the replys to this post of yours.well said.

Man I never thought any president could be worse than Bushwacker was but man I was wrong, Obozo is. He has spat on the constituition and the bill of rights worse than Bush ever did.