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Originally posted by zopzop
The Runner without the Space Gem couldn't even beat Makkari or Buried Alien in a race. He had that Gem when he was blitzing Thanos.Lord Mar-vell kills him.
In that case, they're both pretty much unimpressive. The Runner humiliated Thanos, back when he had the space gem And Mar-Vell didn't do very much, as far as I recall... a few blasts and a decent moment of "team wrecker" type action (as has been done by many high heralds)...
I revise my opinion and say they draw.
Runner had the space gem but he wasn't actually using it against Thanos.
The space gem allows him to basically warp himself to places faster than he can even think of it, but that wasn't what he was doing against Thanos.
He was simply using his base speed to blitz him.
edit: Nova Prime is fast as phuck in flight speed. This dude literally crosses lightyears in seconds. Which amounts to millions of times above lightspeed. Just giving an idea on that front. Not sure how that compares to the Runner exactly.
Nova IS one of the faster Heralds out there. As for the fight..just like it was stated above, Mar-vell really isn't that impressive imo. He shielded himself against Nova and snuck attack Magus and damaged a Surfer that really wasn't even attacking him. If that's all it takes to be above top tier, then you need to include this ranking for Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, and the list goes on. Runner stomps.
Originally posted by zopzop
The Runner without the Space Gem couldn't even beat Makkari or Buried Alien in a race. He had that Gem when he was blitzing Thanos.Lord Mar-vell kills him.
yeah that's true, but it's one of the few times i'll concede pis. in his earlier appearances he traversed galaxies easily. here's one example:
http://imageshack.us/f/98/defenders14316kx4.jpg/
and yet the speed of light is somehow a big deal in that quasar arc?? the whole thing was an homage to barry imo and as such it really doesn't ring true or consistently with other appearances. runner's also got a whole host of other powers including that likeability effect that worked on ss, tp and intangibility. w/o the gem he easily dodged ss's blasts so i don't see why he couldn't dodge mar-velll at LEAST as easily. he also beat the crap out of collector who has some decent feats. i'm not entirely sure who wins--mar-vell really doesn't have many feats--but runner is certainly not an easy win imo, and based on what i've seen of the 2, i'd go with runner.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThe Runner did use the space gem against Thanos but he didnt know he was doing it, that was moving the distance he was travelling to towards him...that why he was reaching his destination quicker than normal and as soon as he thought of it(these are all the Runners own words,backed up by Thanos instruments)
Runner had the space gem but he wasn't actually using it against Thanos.The space gem allows him to basically warp himself to places faster than he can even think of it, but that wasn't what he was doing against Thanos.
He was simply using his base speed to blitz him.
edit: Nova Prime is fast as phuck in flight speed. This dude literally crosses lightyears in seconds. Which amounts to millions of times above lightspeed. Just giving an idea on that front. Not sure how that compares to the Runner exactly.
Originally posted by carver9What a suprise Carver lowballin facepalm
Nova IS one of the faster Heralds out there. As for the fight..just like it was stated above, Mar-vell really isn't that impressive imo. He shielded himself against Nova and snuck attack Magus and damaged a Surfer that really wasn't even attacking him. If that's all it takes to be above top tier, then you need to include this ranking for Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, and the list goes on. Runner stomps.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah that's true, but it's one of the few times i'll concede pis. in his earlier appearances he traversed galaxies easily. here's one example:http://imageshack.us/f/98/defenders14316kx4.jpg/
and yet the speed of light is somehow a big deal in that quasar arc?? the whole thing was an homage to barry imo and as such it really doesn't ring true or consistently with other appearances.
Wasn't this before he lost his Space Gem to Thanos? The cosmic race in the Quasar issue took place after he lost the Space Gem.
runner's also got a whole host of other powers including that likeability effect that worked on ss, tp and intangibility. w/o the gem he easily dodged ss's blasts so i don't see why he couldn't dodge mar-velll at LEAST as easily. he also beat the crap out of collector who has some decent feats. i'm not entirely sure who wins--mar-vell really doesn't have many feats--but runner is certainly not an easy win imo, and based on what i've seen of the 2, i'd go with runner.
Again wasn't the SS encounter prior to losing the Space Gem to Thanos? His post Thanos Quest appearances are few and rather pathetic honestly.
