Thanos/Darkseid/Superboy Prime vs Zeus/Odin

Started by quanchi11216 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor would need to fetch the Belt of Strength, this is not something that Odin has to do, as seen on panel.
Why can't Thor summon it ?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Youre missing the whole point of the argument here Stoic.

Silent Master was trying to say Thanos used a weapon against Odin in using the force block as a counter to Odin using the Gungnir, but when Thanos fought Odin the FB was part of him/his power.

The FB is tech based, Thanos implanting it into his body/suit doesn't change the fact that it's still a tech based weapon.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The FB is tech based, Thanos implanting it into his body/suit doesn't change the fact that it's still a tech based weapon.
That isn't the point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why can't Thor summon it ?

Have you ever seen him summon it? I've seen him pack it up with a few of his other magical items likes the gauntlets, but I have never once seen him summon the Belt like Odin summoned Gunnir, or he summoned Mjolnir. Do you know of a time?

Originally posted by Silent Master
The FB is tech based, Thanos implanting it into his body/suit doesn't change the fact that it's still a tech based weapon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't the point.

👆 he's just doing his desperate troll routine over and over again.

Originally posted by Stoic
My stance is that it is as much a part of Odin as Mjolnir is a part of Thor, and as much as Thanos' standard equipment is a part of his battle armor. I don't see why Gungnir would be disallowed since Odin showed that he can summon it from a pocket universe, or wherever it may be, mych like Thor can summon Mjolnir from a universe away.

Odin created the spear with the Odin force, and it should be allowable, but again, I would like to see what Rage, Damborgson, the Mods, or anyone else that has followed the Asdardians has to say on the matter.

The ability to summon it is part of Odin's powerset, Not allowing Odin to use his powers would be like saying Forge isn't allowed to use his mutant ability to build a weapon in a forum fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
Have you ever seen him summon it? I've seen him pack it up with a few of his other magical items likes the gauntlets, but I have never once seen him summon the Belt like Odin summoned Gunnir, or he summoned Mjolnir. Do you know of a time?
I am pretty sure he has done so but don't have access to my Thor torrent at the moment to verify. The rules make it very clear though and the only time it might be an option depends on the location of the fight.
Originally posted by Nihilist
👆 he's just doing his desperate troll routine over and over again.
I know such is his life it's fun to poke him and make him squirm.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The ability to summon it is part of Odin's powerset, Not allowing Odin to use his powers would be like saying Forge isn't allowed to use his mutant ability to build a weapon in a forum fight.
Odin didnt fight Thanos IN A FORUM FIGHT in the point in question

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am pretty sure he has done so but don't have access to my Thor torrent at the moment to verify. The rules make it very clear though and the only time it might be an option depends on the location of the fight. I know such is his life it's fun to poke him and make him squirm.

Thor does not have this power. Who made the gauntlest's and what power gives them their enchantments? Odin allows Thor to summon Mjolnir as seen recently when he made the hammer fall to the ground disallowing Thor to pick it up again. Gungnir is as much a part of Odin as Thanos' tech is a part of his battle armor. Disallowing Odin from using the entire gamut of his powers would be like neutering him. The Mods need to clarify whether or not it is allowed or not. I have read the rules of forum combat, and I do not believe that they apply to Odin and his Odin Force power spear which is as much a part of him as his appendages.

I would slso like to know how this effects this thread, because there was a time before Odin brought Gungnir out, that he was hit by Thanos and was barely affected by the blow. This is not me being biased, but what was seen on panel.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor does not have this power. Who made the gauntlest's and what power gives them their enchantments? Odin allows Thor to summon Mjolnir as seen recently when he made the hammer fall to the ground disallowing Thor to pick it up again. Gungnir is as much a part of Odin as Thanos' tech is a part of his battle armor. Disallowing Odin from using the entire gamut of his powers would be like neutering him. The Mods need to clarify whether or not it is allowed or not. I have read the rules of forum combat, and I do not believe that they apply to Odin and his Odin Force power spear which is as much a part of him as his appendages.

I would slso like to know how this effects this thread, because there was a time before Odin brought Gungnir out, that he was hit by Thanos and was barely affected by the blow. This is not me being biased, but what was seen on panel.

Thor can summon and travel between dimensions by use of his hammer. It doesn't matter who created anything. Just because Thanos created clones that doesn't mean he can summon them in battle.

The destroyer armor was also created by odin but it can be used against him like pretty much anything else. Just because he created it doesn't mean he has access to it in a forum fight. the rules are very clear and Odin doesn't usually have this on his person. Thor usually has the hammer hence it being allowed.

Odin can't use destroyer armor, absorb his fellow asgardians power since it is a portion of the odinforce, etc.

Odin braced himself for some of Thanos' attacks showing they clearly were powerful enough to affect him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor can summon and travel between dimensions by use of his hammer. It doesn't matter who created anything. Just because Thanos created clones that doesn't mean he can summon them in battle.

The destroyer armor was also created by odin but it can be used against him like pretty much anything else. Just because he created it doesn't mean he has access to it in a forum fight. the rules are very clear and Odin doesn't usually have this on his person. Thor usually has the hammer hence it being allowed.

Odin can't use destroyer armor, absorb his fellow asgardians power since it is a portion of the odinforce, etc.

Odin braced himself for some of Thanos' attacks showing they clearly were powerful enough to affect him.

-Pr- and Bada are the only ones capable of such a ruling. I'll wait on what they have to say on the matter. Gungnir unlike the Destroyer is standard equipment for Odin. he has used it several times in battle. he even had it during his battle with Galactus.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Odin didnt fight Thanos IN A FORUM FIGHT in the point in question

You're allowed to use your powers in a forum fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
-Pr- and Bada are the only ones capable of such a ruling. I'll wait on what they have to say on the matter. Gungnir unlike the Destroyer is standard equipment for Odin. he has used it several times in battle. he even had it during his battle with Galactus.
It isn't standard because he usually doesn't bring it with him. He didn't bring it with him against Thanos either. The same applies to the destroyer armor.

IIRC, he's used it more often than Thanos has used the FB...thus it counts as standard.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, he's used it more often than Thanos has used the FB...thus it counts as standard.
He didn't bring it into battle with him in the first place. Thanos did. Thanos' is standard while Odin needs to summon it so thus it isn't standard. 🙂

He brings the ability to summon it into every battle and he's used it more often than Thanos has used the FB, so unless a mod says otherwise...it counts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He brings the ability to summon it into every battle and he's used it more often than Thanos has used the FB, so unless a mod says otherwise...it counts.
You can't just summon things it has to be with you to be considered standard equipment.

This threads been up a while but I just thought about something.....

If Darkseid can match Zeus on somwhat equal ground, then the team of 3 have a good chance of winning. Seeing that Thanos can put up a good fight vs. Odiin by himself, having Prime on the team should tip the scale in their favor.

Originally posted by Sundipped
This threads been up a while but I just thought about something.....

If Darkseid can match Zeus on somwhat equal ground, then the team of 3 have a good chance of winning. Seeing that Thanos can put up a good fight vs. Odiin by himself, having Prime on the team should tip the scale in their favor.

Thanos had an excellent showing of durability against an Odin that wasnt going all out...

Odin could have amped up off of Asgard (which showed, in Thor 400, was enough to make Odin, who had already given the Full Odin Force to Thor to fight Surtur, the equal of Seth) and the Asgardians (which was enough to enable him to power the Destroyer to the point that it grew to 2000 feet in height) and ended the fight against Thanos in one panel...

Thanos, Darkseid, and Prime have no prayer against this team if they are serious about winning...

This thread is spite against team Thanos...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos had an excellent showing of durability against an Odin that wasnt going all out...

Odin could have amped up off of Asgard (which showed, in Thor 400, was enough to make Odin, who had already given the Full Odin Force to Thor to fight Surtur, the equal of Seth) and the Asgardians (which was enough to enable him to power the Destroyer to the point that it grew to 2000 feet in height) and ended the fight against Thanos in one panel...

Thanos, Darkseid, and Prime have no prayer against this team if they are serious about winning...

This thread is spite against team Thanos...

What proof do you have Odin wasn't going all out ?