Thanos vs Mordru

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Raptor22 Senior Member

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why do you feel that?

In a neutral setting, I have no problem giving Thanos the benefit of the doubt that he could kill "immortal" beings (provided he had the power to do so and wasn't beaten before then). The problem is that Mordru (and Phantom Stranger) aren't really immortal in the traditional comic book sense.

Death really has no meaning for either of them. DC Zeus is immortal, Guardians of the Universe are immortal, Highfather is immortal, etc. Mordru has no timeline and no beginning or end. He just...is, I guess. And Phantom Stranger is likewise above and beyond concepts of life and death.

Now, if you were arguing that Thanos could beat them through KO or incapacitation or whathaveyou, I'd have no issues with that. I wouldn't agree, but both Stranger and Mordru have been beaten before, so the idea of them losing in the general sense isn't crazy. But killing them? I just don't see it happening from Thanos.

because the logic is simply faulty. There are too many factors involved to simply say he can kill unkillables so he can kill them because they're unkillable. There needs to be more to it. Mainly how is he gonna kill them and what is he gonna do to keep them dead. He says he doesn't think they could resist DC's death but all evidence points to them being beyond death in this sense. Using just his logic thanos could beat the presence, and toaa, because they're unkillable and he can kill unkillables.

Raptor22 Senior Member

Sorry jake for some reason I thought my post was quoted in ur question so I thiught u were asking me why i felt the way i did. I went back and found that i was mistaken.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by iceman24567
👆 In TI Thanos just reintroduced death to a universe without it thats all in Mordrus case death doesn't effect him from the start so Thanos' avatar powers are pointless. Either way you look at it Mordru is plenty stronger than Thanos
No, this isn't accurate nor do you even seem to ever grasp what's going on in these threads, ever. You just say someone stomps and can never even articulate your opinion.
Originally posted by Raptor22
Im not following quans logic at all and to be honest I think he's just phucking with u guys and doesn't truly believe these things himself. Unless the same power/source that makes the cancerverse inhabitants unkillable is the same that makes mordru/PS Immortal, the whole point is moot. Using quans logic I could say that mordru win's since he has killed big purple guys before so he can kill thanos.
Ps wasn't allowed to die at the time because the universe wouldn't allow it but the cancerverse didn't allow death of any kind so in a sense it proves Thanos is more powerful than the Spectre as well.

the Darkone Senior Member

Im a thanos fan to a degree, Thanos head up wise can't beat Mordru period, out smart Mordru yes! Kill hell no!!! Thanos is fighting somebody who is above classic odin, Mordru can attack Thanos from another dimension absorb any magic at will, how can Thanos prep against that!?

Uriel005 Senior Member

He just can't accept thanos getting murdered.

ozz81 Senior Member

Is mordru omniscient?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by the Darkone
Im a thanos fan to a degree, Thanos head up wise can't beat Mordru period, out smart Mordru yes! Kill hell no!!! Thanos is fighting somebody who is above classic odin, Mordru can attack Thanos from another dimension absorb any magic at will, how can Thanos prep against that!?
Thanos can outsmart or outright kill him.
Originally posted by Uriel005
He just can't accept thanos getting murdered.
Immune to death, partner.

LordofBrooklyn Senior Member
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos can outsmart or outright kill him. Immune to death, partner.

Thanos CANNOT kill Mordru! Outright or otherwise. Mordru is beyond the conept of death as he is destined to be the last being alive at the end of the universe.

How can something with no beginning or end be killed?

What is your answer going to be? Thanos power?

Even the notion of outsmarting him in a KMC battle for a victory seems impossible. What could Thanos conceive that Mordru simply couldn't undo and/or absorb?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thanos CANNOT kill Mordru! Outright or otherwise. Mordru is beyond the conept of death as he is destined to be the last being alive at the end of the universe.

How can something with no beginning or end be killed?

What is your answer going to be? Thanos power?

Even the notion of outsmarting him in a KMC battle for a victory seems impossible. What could Thanos conceive that Mordru simply couldn't undo and/or absorb?

Destiny has nothing to do with this thread. His destiny doesn't mean he can take on the Presence since he will outlast the universe that doesn't mean he can beat someone like this. It's bad logic.

The best is Mordru has been defeated and is destined to lose no matter who he sqaures off against and you think Thanos can't best him.

Thanos bests beings capable of consuming the entire marvel u like it was nothing.

LordofBrooklyn Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Destiny has nothing to do with this thread. His destiny doesn't mean he can take on the Presence since he will outlast the universe that doesn't mean he can beat someone like this. It's bad logic.

The best is Mordru has been defeated and is destined to lose no matter who he sqaures off against and you think Thanos can't best him.

Thanos bests beings capable of consuming the entire marvel u like it was nothing.

Let me try again.

The nature of Mordru's existence( i.e. having no beginning or end) makes him a being beyond death. You can't kill Mordru because he is above death.

Nothing can stop Mordru from existing. That includes Thanatos.

Conversely, Mordru can simply consume Thanos and that is the end of the mad Titan.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Let me try again.

The nature of Mordru's existence( i.e. having no beginning or end) makes him a being beyond death. You can't kill Mordru because he is above death.

Nothing can stop Mordru from existing. That includes Thanatos.

Conversely, Mordru can simply consume Thanos and that is the end of the mad Titan.

Mordru isn't above dc's death. If dc's death came for him I'd suspect he'd die. He might live because dc death hasn't yet come for him.

Thanos can kill those otherwise unkillable. He can resist universal laws in doing so.

Mordru gets consumed all the time. When has Thanos been consumed ?

Uriel005 Senior Member

^ wrong. will look for the issue but Mordru will outlast the end of the universe... In DC that means that Death will actively claim every last life and Mordru will still be. So wrong. If anyone could help me find it I'd appreciate it as I'll have to dig through my garage which is going to suck... not even sure what run it's under.

Sirius77 Senior Member
Originally posted by Uriel005
^ wrong. will look for the issue but Mordru will outlast the end of the universe... In DC that means that Death will actively claim every last life and Mordru will still be. So wrong. If anyone could help me find it I'd appreciate it as I'll have to dig through my garage which is going to suck... not even sure what run it's under.

Are you referring to the JSA issue in which Hourman's time-vision outright fails on Mordru because he has no beginning or end?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Uriel005
^ wrong. will look for the issue but Mordru will outlast the end of the universe... In DC that means that Death will actively claim every last life and Mordru will still be. So wrong. If anyone could help me find it I'd appreciate it as I'll have to dig through my garage which is going to suck... not even sure what run it's under.
That means the universe ends but Mordru survives. I mean we saw one Monitor survive the end of his own universe and survive easily. That doesn't mean dc's death actively tried taking his own life. 🙂

Sirius77 Senior Member

Here it is:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MordruAgeless.jpg

Hourman:

"Before I lost consciousness, I attempted to use my time-vision to devolve him back along his personal timeline to an age where he was not so powerful. But his time-line has no beginning or end. As far as I can tell, Mordru was never born , nor will ever die."

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sirius77
Here it is:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MordruAgeless.jpg

Hourman:

"Before I lost consciousness, I attempted to use my time-vision to devolve him back along his personal timeline to an age where he was not so powerful. But his time-line has [B]no beginning or end. As far as I can tell, Mordru was never born , nor will ever die." [/B]

Key words as far as I can tell. Thanos can kill those otherwise deemed unkillable.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Why do you guys bother with Quan can't you see he's trolling? He hasn't countered the fact that Mordru can't be killed he outright ignores the fact that Mordru at his best is leagues above Thanos why continue with the guy you can't reason with him. Mordru stomps

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by iceman24567
Why do you guys bother with Quan can't you see he's trolling? He hasn't countered the fact that Mordru can't be killed he outright ignores the fact that Mordru at his best is leagues above Thanos why continue with the guy you can't reason with him. Mordru stomps
Thanos has already proven he can kill those who can't be killed. Wtf.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Sirius77
Here it is:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MordruAgeless.jpg

Hourman:

"Before I lost consciousness, I attempted to use my time-vision to devolve him back along his personal timeline to an age where he was not so powerful. But his time-line has [B]no beginning or end. As far as I can tell, Mordru was never born , nor will ever die." [/B]

I remember that its pretty obvious death holds no ground on Mordru if Thanos tries to bring death to him he would just moon her ugly ass 😬

Sirius77 Senior Member
Originally posted by iceman24567
Why do you guys bother with Quan can't you see he's trolling? He hasn't countered the fact that Mordru can't be killed he outright ignores the fact that Mordru at his best is leagues above Thanos why continue with the guy you can't reason with him. Mordru stomps

Oh, I don't even read his posts anymore. He's on ignore. I've stopped debating with trolls. Well, I still debate with carver... but he's a couple steps above quan imo.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I remember that its pretty obvious death holds no ground on Mordru if Thanos tries to bring death to him he would just moon her ugly ass 😬

Yeah, I was just posting that to add to what some of the people were saying, and to prove that mordru is actually deathless.

Oh and here's another one. They're all throughout his respect thread.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MordruEnergyBeginningEnd1.jpg

Dude just simply doesn't have a beginning or end. I think it's funny that this thread is still even open tbh. Especially with the pc version of the character being discussed. Hell, I was even arguing the weaker version.