Why are there more theists, in the world then atheists?

Originally posted by inimalist
therefore you would agree with the statement that evolution did not select for theism, yes?

I am not sure if you intended to say that.

From my words, the correct reply to my post would have been:

"Therefore you would agree with the statement that "evolution" selected for theism, yes?"

Because I find evolution to have a conscious contributer. It's only a tool.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I always kind of assumed that there's more theists than atheists in the world because theists are smarter and survive while atheists get picked off by predators or kill themselves when they realize everything they do is meaningless because there's nothing after death.

You're joking right? 😕

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think atheism, spirituality and science all fall under certain definitions of philosophy.

Then theism does too right? You know, since we're broadening philosophy.

Originally posted by Digi
Wow, holy crap. So I prove that you were making things up, misquoting me, and claiming the exact opposite of me than I was, and yet you continue attacking me.

Forget it lil. You're being far too angry toward me to have a discussion here. Frankly, I'm surprised at this coming from you. We've never so much as disagreed, and now I'm taking heat like I've been attacking you for years. I honestly don't know where this is coming from. If there was some perceived slight, in this thread or any other, it was not intended, nor was my tone or words intended to offend. There's not much more I can say.

Hah. I'm not angry at all. What is there to be angry about? Clearly you're upset, so we can leave this convo altogether. No hard feelings.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think atheism, spirituality and science all fall under certain definitions of philosophy.

Indeed. So, philosophy of all sorts and religion it is, then.

I think it's pretty obvious: theism is more prevalent because it's leftover from our more primitive ancestors reflecting fears and concerns about the afterlife. But now that science is explaining more and more I think there is less and less reason for such superstitions.

I'd imagine that another reason is that some people find moral relativism and moral nihilism utterly repelling, such as myself, though even if I convert to atheism one day I'll retain my belief in an objective morality.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'd imagine that another reason is that some people find moral relativism and moral nihilism utterly repelling, such as myself, though even if I convert to atheism one day I'll retain my belief in an objective morality.

It's a myth that you can't have morality without a supernatural deity. Religion should not have a monopoly on morality seeing as they are based on books that condone slavery and condemn women and homosexuals. Again, leftovers from superstitious primitives. Intelligent human reason and communication could come up with far better moral codes.

He said objective morality, which... is pretty much impossible without a universal authority, yeah. Sorry.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It's a myth that you can't have morality without a supernatural deity. Religion should not have a monopoly on morality seeing as they are based on books that condone slavery and condemn women and homosexuals. Again, leftovers from superstitious primitives. Intelligent human reason and communication could come up with far better moral codes.

I'm not a Biblical inerrantist, so I don't really take every moral epithet in the Bible at face value. What is at the heart of my morality is Jesus's two greatest commandments, which can both be boiled down to act out of love. IMO love is the heart of moral motivation, so I believe that my moral responsibility is to act out of love and do what makes logical sense from there. I believe that moral code is tied directly to God, though if I'm wrong about God's existence (which I freely admit I could be) I still regret nothing about my moral code.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He said objective morality, which... is pretty much impossible without a universal authority, yeah. Sorry.

So let me know when you get some instruction from this "universal authority." Because so far the books that are claimed as "His Word" have already been effectively debunked. The only "GOD" we know is our BRAINS, so that's what we should use to be moral beings.

cause ppl are dumb, smh.

And honestly, I think a lot of people don't really think about it much. The facts and evidence of evolution are sort of suppressed to keep from "offending" religious folks and people just kind of go along with what is socially acceptable in society and that is to believe in God. It's the same reason you dare not run for public office unless you are outspoken about your belief in God.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
cause ppl are dumb, smh.

Not dumb, just wrong.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Atheists can be moral people, I'm just saying that almost all moral relativists are atheists and thus the two get conflated, and I'd imagine some people find atheism offputting because it opens the doors to moral relativism so to speak.

Every religion is its own moral relativism. They are mostly shaped by the culture that wrote them. Hence why there are weird taboos in several religions.

Originally posted by socool8520
Every religion is its own moral relativism. They are mostly shaped by the culture that wrote them. Hence why there are weird taboos in several religions.

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand why it's said that morality from an imaginary omnipotent being for whose existence there is no evidence is "objective." If the source is questionable at best how is that objective?

I just love how an omnipotent being cares about our actions.

I guess I relate, I get pissed off whenever an ant betrays another ant. I throw a fit and judge them. One time a whole bunch of ants pissed me off so I took a hose and squirted water where their ant hill was and caused a massive flood killing them all. It was hilarious, but I'm not a psychopath. The ants had just sinned far too much, they had to die. This is normal stuff a normal rational being with infinite love would do.

It really just doesn't make any sense to me. If any person acted in this way they would either be locked up or killed. Quickly.

Originally posted by socool8520
It really just doesn't make any sense to me. If any person acted in this way they would either be locked up or killed. Quickly.

There are not just two options, but three:

-Locked up
-Killed
-Worshiped as a deity

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We all know that there are far more theists then atheists in the world. Is this circumstantial or is theism a more natural state then atheism?

Atheism is at best being eccentric, and at worst being an aberration 😛

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
So let me know when you get some instruction from this "universal authority." Because so far the books that are claimed as "His Word" have already been effectively debunked. The only "GOD" we know is our BRAINS, so that's what we should use to be moral beings.

I am sorry but from a few threads I have skimmed trough in this sub-forum I see a great lack of competence on Atheists's part. The "brain god," as you put it, would be disappointed LOL