Darth Vader vs Blade

Lucas is old, he obviously forgets and makes up stuff as he goes along.

Like the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs. When called on it and the fact that a parsec is a measurement of distance and not time. Lucas said that since the Kessel Run is near the Maw and other black holes, spatial distortion occurs, and they literally made it under 12 parsecs because they didn't technically go as far as they would have if they hadn't been near a black hole.

Blade wins.

Force-Choke = win.

Blade would lose this badly. Not only would Vader disallow him to move, but that light saber would cut right through his steel katana (at least I think it should). Or, as he used the force to immobilize Blade he would just cut Blade to ribbons.

Again, this is movie Vader; in his suit.

He only briefly used Force Choke on a Moff, and that was out of battle. In battle all he did was fight, and rather stiffly and slowly. Blade's a much better duelist, and as I stated earlier, since Vader has a saber, give Blade a Cortosis Blade or Adamantium Blade(which he probably already uses since he uses one in the comic).

Originally posted by KingD19
Again, this is movie Vader; in his suit.

He only briefly used Force Choke on a Moff, and that was out of battle. In battle all he did was fight, and rather stiffly and slowly. Blade's a much better duelist, and as I stated earlier, since Vader has a saber, give Blade a Cortosis Blade or Adamantium Blade(which he probably already uses since he uses one in the comic).

Good points.

I don't think this fight is as one-sided as everyone thinks. I still think Vader wins.

The OP did not state Vader would fight in character. So we just have to take him at his best: CIS and PIS is off. Vader starts out with a force choke.

I think Blade can easily dodge a thrown saber. And Snipes is faster than Vader at sword skills. So if it comes down to bladed (pun?) combat, Blade would win. Same with H2H combat: Blade wins.

However, it never gets that far.

Vader kills or incapacitates Blade within a few steps.

Automatic projectile rounds are arguable to the Star Wars universe when it comes to Light Sabres but Vader should be able to choke hold Blade eventually.

I don't like arguing Star Wars characters. They are broken. But Blade stands a good chance.

Ah hem: BRAIN TOSS YO ASS IN THE AIR -ERB.

Anyways, the Force gives Vader to much of an advantage. I believe he could hold his own in H2H, but Blade does take that, granted not without at least one wound.

Vader also has on a suit of armor, so Blade's blade won't necessarily cut straight through, not to mention glancing blows won't have as much of an effect.

Yes, I know Luke cut through it in ESB, but that's a lightsaber that can cut through just about any material. (Just for anyone who wants to be a dumbass and say since Luke cut it just fine so could Blade)

Blade has access to an adamantium blade, and has enough strength to cut through Vader just fine given his feats in the movie.

And if we're using them PIS-less and CIS-less, Blade shoots him in the face to start off. A force choke won't stop someone like Blade from moving.

Originally posted by KingD19
Blade has access to an adamantium blade, and has enough strength to cut through Vader just fine given his feats in the movie.

And if we're using them PIS-less and CIS-less, Blade shoots him in the face to start off. A force choke won't stop someone like Blade from moving.

Not in the movie versions!!! No Adamantium here. This is the Movie Vs Forum. Blade doesn't have that. Vader showed the ability from a distance to stop laser blasts in his hands. Blasts enough to tear a large creatures guts apart.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Not in the movie versions!!! No Adamantium here. This is the Movie Vs Forum. Blade doesn't have that. Vader showed the ability from a distance to stop laser blasts in his hands. Blasts enough to tear a large creatures guts apart.

Was it ever stated that his sword wasn't Adamantium? Even if it wasn't, giving him a blade that can't withstand a saber is spite. So it's only fair he be given either a cortosis sword, or adamantium.

And Vader held up his cybernetic hand and stopped a blaster bolt; nothing special about that. It's not like he stopped force lightning like Yoda.

And blasts enough to tear a large creatures guts apart? What are you talking about?

This is just dumb. Vader chokes Blade.

As for Han's blaster...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhXJrAEw7Y&feature=player_embedded#at=440

And while Vader is choking Blade, he gets shot in the face.

Ohoho... It's not like Vader hasn't done anything with guns before. Right?

Suit Vader caught a single blaster bolt on his hand. Which as I stated and is obvious, is fully cybernetic.

Blade has full auto machine pistols with extended clips.

What's he gonna do to stop 30-50 bullets from hitting him in the face?

It was never explained in the movies because they were never used, but Force Users have a helluva hard time dealing with slug throwers.(Aka bullets) because they're faster than blaster bolts, and aren't big glowing lances of energy.

I don't recall Jedi ever having a hard time deflecting slugs in the EU. Hell, Obi-Wan seems to pretty easily deflect Durge's "machine gun" fire.

But no, I was talking about ripping a gun out of Blade's hand. And BTW, Vader blocks four bolts not one.

Four bolts shot at his hand.

And ripping a gun out of Blades hand would be far more difficult than Han, since ya know, Blade his legitimate super strength.

And Obi-Wan at the time of facing Durge was the most skilled defensive Jedi in the history of the order. The whole point is, slugthrowers fire high speed rounds that aren't visible. Jedi can and have deflected them, but it's nowhere near as easy as with blasters.

And you honestly think Vader can block bullets going roughly 1,000 fps?

I recall Vader force choking someone over a monitor while he was on a star destroyer and they were on the death star an untold distance away....or the other way about...definitely huge distances involved...so yeah...Vader wins.

I never said Vader couldn't choke him. I just said he'd never choked someone in a fight; it would have been rather useful against Obi-Wan or Luke, or Han don't you think?

And despite the distance, and the choking, he won't stop those bullets.

Well I mean suited Vader was still very powerful in the force, look what happened right after he got put in the suit in ROTS. He was able to crush all the metal objects in a room.

Blade can't use any of his guns with they have all been crushed.

Or if Blade got crushed with force choke.

Not only that, but every time somebody was being choked, their hands went to their throat. I have a feeling there's a bit of panic when your choking, but there's nothing on your throat. Chances are Blade would try and free his throat as well.

Oh, and grip isn't the only thing Vader can do, clearly.

And as for the Blade hurting Vader just fine, I said glancing blows wouldn't have as much of an effect