Re: Rank Strength Levels
Originally posted by Supermutant
Rank strongest to weakest based on average strength showings.Hercules
Abomination
Rulk
Namor
Rhino
Thing
Sasquatch
Colossus
Strong Guy
Wonder Man
Super Skrull
Beta Ray Bill
Terrax
Rulk
Hercules
Beta Ray Bill=Terrax
Wonder Man
Namor (fully hydrated)
Abomination
Sasquatch
Colossus
Thing=Super Skrull
Strong Guy
Rhino
Originally posted by Damborgson
thats not to bad. Except for Luke and Surfer.
And Wolverine, Moon Knight, Captain America, are in the wrong spots, because Kazar isn't stronger than they are. Thundra is nowhere near as strong as She Hulk. Vision is way too high on the polls. The whole list is a mess.
Originally posted by nwg202It's classic Colossus. If I am remembering my old comics correctly, Marvel always made sure it was clear at the time that he was just a kid and would probably get more powerful as he matured.
which colossus is this? current colossus or classic colossus?
Originally posted by NewjakJuggs is not in the list.
In my opinion the top 3 areHerc, Colossus as Juggernaut, BRB
Going by feats Herc is slightly stronger than everyone else here, altough my Juggernaut bias would say he is at least his equal possibly stronger if need because his power can also be dynamic at times like Hulk
Originally posted by h1a8
Juggs is not in the list.
Colossus is nowhere near high herald level strength. Juggs do deserve a nod simply by his battles with Hulk (especially WWH).
Colossus pushed and threw kuurth around. rulk got owned by worthy thing. they are facing each other soon in avx. current Colossus can definately hang with Herc, Bill and Rulk. I don't think any of those 3 can stop Colossus from moving forward. Only Thor and Colossus held their own one on one against the worthy. Even the surfer needed help against the worthy. (PIS i know) putting current Colossus below namor and wonderman is just weird.
Originally posted by nwg202
Colossus pushed and threw kuurth around. rulk got owned by worthy thing. they are facing each other soon in avx. current Colossus can definately hang with Herc, Bill and Rulk. I don't think any of those 3 can stop Colossus from moving forward. Only Thor and Colossus held their own one on one against the worthy. Even the surfer needed help against the worthy. (PIS i know) putting current Colossus below namor and wonderman is just weird.
Does durability, mystical or otherwise equate to strength, or being stronger in all cases?
Originally posted by nwg202
Colossus pushed and threw kuurth around. rulk got owned by worthy thing. they are facing each other soon in avx. current Colossus can definately hang with Herc, Bill and Rulk. I don't think any of those 3 can stop Colossus from moving forward. Only Thor and Colossus held their own one on one against the worthy. Even the surfer needed help against the worthy. (PIS i know) putting current Colossus below namor and wonderman is just weird.
Originally posted by Horrificus
First of all, I am one of the people who read the book and did NOT think that Colossus did that well.
Second, from what we have seen with Cain and Cytorrak, it seems that having a "good heart" can actually keep a guy from really getting all the benefits that are offered by being a Juggernaut.
Unless Piotr goes nuts or Cytorrak becomes "loving", they are really going to have to write some serious "crap" to make Collossus a top-level Juggernaut.
So you think herc, namor and wonderman would have done a lot better agianst a hammer weilding Serpent powered Kuurth? Rulk got his ass handed to him by Angrir. Namor had strange and surfer with him when he was taking on attuma...Most of the worthy took on multiple teams of heroes. Colossus has had one major fight and it was one on one vs worthy juggernaut. he's going up aginst rulk next...so we shall see what happens.
Originally posted by Stoic
Does durability, mystical or otherwise equate to strength, or being stronger in all cases?
i know that's why i said in an earlier post, going by lifting feats I'm going with Herc. but by blitzing and pushing and running over people, I'm going with Colossus. Over all power and versatilty BRB of course. but i'd put rulk,colossus, herc and brb all in the same general strength level. hard to decide who is really the strongest.
if this was a bench press competition i'd go with herc, if this was a cage match I'd go with Colossus or Rulk.(regen will help a lot here) If this was a real fight with no rules i'd go with BRB cause of his hammer and flight. so i guess its herc in the pure strength department.
Originally posted by nwg202I wouldn't say that they would have done better than Colossus did. But, I do think that Cain would have.
So you think herc, namor and wonderman would have done a lot better agianst a hammer weilding Serpent powered Kuurth? Rulk got his ass handed to him by Angrir. Namor had strange and surfer with him when he was taking on attuma...Most of the worthy took on multiple teams of heroes. Colossus has had one major fight and it was one on one vs worthy juggernaut. he's going up aginst rulk next...so we shall see what happens.
Re: Re: Rank Strength Levels
If were talking Jugg colossus then he likely in the right spot on many peoples list. But if that is normal colossus there is no way in hell he should be above Thing let a lone several spots above thing.
just wanted to make that clear because seems like some people arnt even using jugg colossus and still putting colossus crazy high which is not supported by feats.
Originally posted by Newjak
I'm using Jugg Colossus
Originally posted by Horrificus
I wouldn't say that they would have done better than Colossus did. But, I do think that Cain would have.
It seemed like Colossus was able to utilize the "Unstoppable" aspect of Juggernaut's power, but the "Invulnerability" part of it was definitely missing. And, that is an important part.
And, it's good for continuity that he was not able to take advantage of all that power. Maybe for once, a writer has actually read the comics.
He was more like a battering ram that kept getting pushed forward, regardless of what was happening to him. It was NOT a good fight for Colossus.
And, even though he kept going forward, he was not really inflicting any damage. So, the whole Juggernaut Strength thing is in question as well.
I think that Herc, Namor or Wonder man would be able to inflict harm on Colossonaut. Whether they can defeat him or not, I'm not sure. But, he is no Cain Marko Juggernaut.
Well, kieron gillen stated that he had the full power of the juggernaut stacked up on top of his original powers. But I agree, so far herc would definatley be able to harm him, but he has hulk like regen. He was totally fine after the fight w/ kuurth. So harming him and putting him down are totally different scenarios. We still don't know what it takes to k.o. him kuurth couldnt do it. We will see if rulk can.
I don't think he will ever get Cain's force field, cain himself rarely used it. Cain fighting world war hulk had his helmet dented too. Colossus himself has ripped that helmet off. Shartter star poked cain's eyes out and a teenage colossus was able to put him on his ass. ( he didn't beat him of course) so i don't think modern writers will write someone who cant get hurt at all.
So I don't think you will see Colossus completely invulnerable, hell everyone gets harmed now. Especially since he is in a team book and is a hero. You wont see him go crazy like hulk and take on several teams of heroes, if he turns into a villain or goes to the darkside or gets a solo title i am sure the feats will ramp up.