Originally posted by quanchi112Thanos is always going to be a universal threat. In all truth, if he targeted Mangog, he would SOMEHOW destroy him, imo. With planning and superior strategy.
You do realize how powerful Thanos has become in Thanos Imperative, right ?
Here's hoping Thanos gets beat up badly by more powerfull characters, but ends up thinking his way out AFTER being able to soak up punishment the way that only Thanos would be able to do.
Here is one of the COOLEST Examples of this EVER put into a comic-
After absorbing the power of Galactus' World Ship, Doctor Doom attacks Classic Beyonder and is beaten down.
Doctor Doom now finds himself held aloft by the energies of the Beyonder as he is slowly, methodically dissected and bisected.
"Utter death, only split seconds away, offers an escape which any other mortal would gratefully accept... But he is Doom." And, we know how THAT worked out.
Come on. Amping the power of a character in every story line just plain sucks.
The writers should have to actually think, and create, AND read the damned previous comics once in a while!
My work here is done... yinyang
Originally posted by Horrificus
Seriously, if you are going to communicate in such an arrogant manner, you should at least be sure of your facts.First, the relationship between Mangog and Thanos:
Mangog telling Thanos that the only reason he is listening to him, is because they share the same vision. As I said. This is BEFORE Thanos had acquired the items of power.
Mangog threatening Thanos and then, not cowering, being told to sit down and shut up, not being terrified. Simply being sorry for losing his warrior's temper. And, in the picture, you will see what Thanos is wearing. This takes place AFTER Thanos has gained the items of power and has proclaimed himself Death. And, even THEN, he did not snap at Mangog and Mangog never cowered.
Funny enough, why don't you try and address my last post.. instead of quoting an earlier post? I know why.. because I asked for scans that backed up your claims... ya know claims which were untrue... So, I know why you didn't quote my proper post... nor answer the question.. but don't think I missed it. Here it's again...
"Further... you said THIS "Regardless of Thanos's showings, it would have to be shown that Thanos has had similar on-panel feats. Similar to defeating an entire civilization of Asgardian Gods. Warriors, Super-Weapons, Defenses, Thor and Odin.
Absolutely, without injury and threat. Without effort, as a matter of fact."
So I asked for ANYTIME Mangog has defeated an entire civilization of Asgardians including Thor and Odin. You said Thanos had to have SIMILIAR feats... you even said without effort. I can't recall A SINGLE TIME Mangog defeated all the Asgardians with little effort what so ever. In fact, I can't even remember him ultimately defeating them at all. So yes, I'm going to ask for scans when I can't recall this ever happening."
In re: the scans... they don't contradict one thing I said... in fact they support it. Thanos never acts like he is worried about Mangog or Mangog is a threat to him. The only person who ever apologies and backs down... in mangog.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Thanos is always going to be a universal threat. In all truth, if he targeted Mangog, he would SOMEHOW destroy him, imo. With planning and superior strategy.
But, That is the beauty of Thanos. Going back, all the way to the Thanos Quest, it was his mind that defeated his enemies. His physical power was just "support".
Mangog is the opposite. He is supposed to be the pinnacle of power, not not much of a strategist. As a matter of fact, he is basically just a faucet pouring out power through hate.
When he was created, he was well on his way to being an Abstract Being, or avatar of Hate.
Even though he is more powerful than Thanos, I think it is fitting that he would be in service of Thanos. Mangog is not a leader or a conqueror. He is just a step up from being on the same scale as a mindless black hole or gamma burst, or other natural phenomenon.
Personally, I really hope they don't continue to write Thanos as always increasing in power and being totally invulnerable. That always leads to poor stories.
After all, if you write a story where the main character is in a bad situation, close to defeat, what's easier? Having to THINK of an interesting, intelligent, surprising and entertaining solution? Or, just writing that the character is suddenly able to pound his opponents out of the way and then the story ends? (cough--Hulk--cough)Here's hoping Thanos gets beat up badly by more powerfull characters, but ends up thinking his way out AFTER being able to soak up punishment the way that only Thanos would be able to do.
Here is one of the COOLEST Examples of this EVER put into a comic-
After absorbing the power of Galactus' World Ship, Doctor Doom attacks Classic Beyonder and is beaten down.
Doctor Doom now finds himself held aloft by the energies of the Beyonder as he is slowly, methodically dissected and bisected.
"Utter death, only split seconds away, offers an escape which any other mortal would gratefully accept... But he is Doom." And, we know how THAT worked out.Come on. Amping the power of a character in every story line just plain sucks.
The writers should have to actually think, and create, AND read the damned previous comics once in a while!My work here is done... yinyang
I would agree with this, Thanos would beat mordern version of Mangog with his mind, but Classic Mangog was another level of power, it took all of Odin powers to de-powered him Thanos is powerful but not elite sky-father or low elder god like RKT to defeat Classic Mangog who height of his power was at least sky father in power, power which Thanos doesn't have. Thanos goes heads up like he did with Dp Tyrant and cant teleport, he is in major trouble.
Originally posted by HorrificusThanos can rely on his physical power when he has to he just prefers to let other brutes do the heavy lifting for him when he needs to do so he definitely is up to the task. Thanos went after Tyrant a character so powerful Galactus himself took pause at him.
Thanos is always going to be a universal threat. In all truth, if he targeted Mangog, he would SOMEHOW destroy him, imo. With planning and superior strategy.
But, That is the beauty of Thanos. Going back, all the way to the Thanos Quest, it was his mind that defeated his enemies. His physical power was just "support".
Mangog is the opposite. He is supposed to be the pinnacle of power, not not much of a strategist. As a matter of fact, he is basically just a faucet pouring out power through hate.
When he was created, he was well on his way to being an Abstract Being, or avatar of Hate.
Even though he is more powerful than Thanos, I think it is fitting that he would be in service of Thanos. Mangog is not a leader or a conqueror. He is just a step up from being on the same scale as a mindless black hole or gamma burst, or other natural phenomenon.
Personally, I really hope they don't continue to write Thanos as always increasing in power and being totally invulnerable. That always leads to poor stories.
After all, if you write a story where the main character is in a bad situation, close to defeat, what's easier? Having to THINK of an interesting, intelligent, surprising and entertaining solution? Or, just writing that the character is suddenly able to pound his opponents out of the way and then the story ends? (cough--Hulk--cough)Here's hoping Thanos gets beat up badly by more powerfull characters, but ends up thinking his way out AFTER being able to soak up punishment the way that only Thanos would be able to do.
Here is one of the COOLEST Examples of this EVER put into a comic-
After absorbing the power of Galactus' World Ship, Doctor Doom attacks Classic Beyonder and is beaten down.
Doctor Doom now finds himself held aloft by the energies of the Beyonder as he is slowly, methodically dissected and bisected.
"Utter death, only split seconds away, offers an escape which any other mortal would gratefully accept... But he is Doom." And, we know how THAT worked out.Come on. Amping the power of a character in every story line just plain sucks.
The writers should have to actually think, and create, AND read the damned previous comics once in a while!My work here is done... yinyang
Thanos is a leader and someone with the power to defeat those with greater power than Mangog. Mangog is powerful don't get me wrong but a step down or so from Thanos.
Originally posted by the DarkoneA lot of his powers are tech based. Even if I said a naked Thanos which is exactly what we saw in gotg 25 he'd still maul mangog.
Let make this clear, Thanos cant use tech he must use his own powers and abilites, Thanos cant leave Asgard. CLassic Mangog can track Thanos where ever he goes in Asgard!!
Originally posted by Horrificus
Mangog > Odin > Thanos
Wouldn't go that far but Classic MAngog was a half notch below Classic Odin still more powerful than Thanos, and that says a lot how powerful Mangog was in his prime. Truth be told as much I like Thanos and respect him as character, certain people pump him up too high, so far up his a$$ they would know what he had for lunch. I was guilty of this myself, to tell the truth without Death curse Thanos would have gotten butt rape by Odin, Tyrant, Maker, but you have to love Thanos resilient!!
Regardless of Thanos Impertaive, Thanos was a tool to bring death back into that universe, the ability that he recieve was only good for that one particular mission to say that his new ability is absurd and unfounded, until proven Thanos doesn't that ability to kill the unkillable which was only for those beings in that universe that never truly stayed dead.
Originally posted by the DarkoneHave you happened to come across Thanos Imperative ?
Wouldn't go that far but Classic MAngog was a half notch below Classic Odin still more powerful than Thanos, and that says a lot how powerful Mangog was in his prime. Truth be told as much I like Thanos and respect him as character, certain people pump him up too high, so far up his a$$ they would know what he had for lunch. I was guilty of this myself, to tell the truth without Death curse Thanos would have gotten butt rape by Odin, Tyrant, Maker, but you have to love Thanos resilient!!
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're wasting your time, as the fanboys still haven't figured out the difference between Classic Mangog and Jurgens Mangog.
People continually waste their time even answering your stupid questions because A) They are mostly always fallacious in nature, B) You don't even read comics and C) you never answer questions in return... Yet, we still do sometimes.. be happy.