Originally posted by guy222
there isn't anything thor can dox-men forever isn't continuity that's such a silly point to reference
stranger>thor
anything else yall being silly
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Has the Stranger ever collided with the Silver Surfer or any other being of his level? If so what was the outcome? Did the outcome resemble the outcome of what Tyrant would do to a being of this level?
Originally posted by StoicYeah him and Surfer had a tangle, and Surfer made him work for it in a big way.
Has the Stranger ever collided with the Silver Surfer or any other being of his level? If so what was the outcome? Did the outcome resemble the outcome of what Tyrant would do to a being of this level?
Originally posted by Naija boy
^The watcher thing happened in a Quasar issue, i lost my archive of Quasar comics, but ill look for it.Furthermore, trying to play the feat wars game between a marginal cosmic character like stranger and a premiere character like Thor is quite ridiculous given the strangers lack of appearacnes. Thor probably has better feats, than the abstracts love and hate and many other abstracts....Im not going to beginning claiming they are below high heralds on that basis. Yes feats are good but comic reading should also involve some measure of intution and common sense.
Appearing alongside cosmic beings (with the direct implicaton of being a cosmic being) while not a feat in an of itself is an implication of status which iin this scenario is a reasonable implication of powerlevel as in IG Saga, a clear divergence between Cosmic level powers and earthly level powers was drawn. Moreover the stranger did launch an energy form attack in conjunction with Galactus and Eon, on Thanos. The issue isnt the equality of the cosmic level powers and hence Zeus appearing alongside other cosmic beings takes nothing away from the point, but rather the definite distinction between cosmic level beings and earth level heroes which was clearly made during the IG saga.
When these status implications are taken into consideration, the strangers manner of tone towards Thor while pompous is clearly grounded in an acknowledgement of the status and consequent power differential by the writer. The fact that he casually oneshotted him miles away with Thor having no idea what was going only re-enforces what should be an already obvious divide. Thor having "better feats" in this scenario given the circumstances should be utterly inconsequential
Writers dont write characters taking into account their battleboard applicable feats. Hence we are tootally unjustified in the completely discarding other tools in the proper contextual interpretation of on panel occurences. Reducing the stranger to top tier level due to the absence of a multitude feats, when he is clearly not intended to be portrayed as anything even close to that is just criminal. This should go without saying....
Exactly. Character x only has one appearance. But in that one appearance he changes Earth into a giant turtle. I don't need to see a million feats to know he'd in all likelihood take out Thor, Superman et al. Much like I didn't need to see Zeus bench-press a mountain to know he could take the Hulk in any kind of match, including a physical one. He's a damn skyfather.
Originally posted by dmills
Exactly. Character x only has one appearance. But in that one appearance he changes Earth into a giant turtle. I don't need to see a million feats to know he'd in all likelihood take out Thor, Superman et al. Much like I didn't need to see Zeus bench-press a mountain to know he could take the Hulk in any kind of match, including a physical one. He's a damn skyfather.
I get this, but how do you explain his run in with the Surfer? Was he intentionally going easy on him? The Shaper of Worlds also has a grand title, but this did not stop the Savage Hulk from driving him nuts. Nightmare has also been tooled by the Savage Hulk. Zeus is another story altogether, he has never had fits with a Herald tier. It just seems kind of suspect.
Originally posted by Stoic
I get this, but how do you explain his run in with the Surfer? Was he intentionally going easy on him? The Shaper of Worlds also has a grand title, but this did not stop the Savage Hulk from driving him nuts. Nightmare has also been tooled by the Savage Hulk. Zeus is another story altogether, he has never had fits with a Herald tier. It just seems kind of suspect.
It's not anything I rack my brain over to be honest. I believe it was you who pointed out, you just never know with these cosmic types. All too often they are saddled with pis/cis so that a lower tiered character can get a high showing. Things like how is it that the Surfer regularly humbles opponents that give Thor fits and yet Thor takes it to Surfer more often then not are more vexing to me. Or Surfer>Hulk>Thor>Surfer>Hulk.
Originally posted by Stoic
Has the Stranger ever collided with the Silver Surfer or any other being of his level? If so what was the outcome? Did the outcome resemble the outcome of what Tyrant would do to a being of this level?
the stranger has battled the watchers
stranger>uatu
created ego
he's an enigma
ppl don't like em because he has a stache like guy222
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Originally posted by Stoic
I get this, but how do you explain his run in with the Surfer? Was he intentionally going easy on him? The Shaper of Worlds also has a grand title, but this did not stop the Savage Hulk from driving him nuts. Nightmare has also been tooled by the Savage Hulk. Zeus is another story altogether, he has never had fits with a Herald tier. It just seems kind of suspect.
Seriously though, Hulk (Savage Hulk in particular) tools Nightmare easily every time they face off. It's not PIS/CIS or anything such, it's just a fact that, for some reason, Savage Hulk doesn't restrain himself much, when facing off against Nightmare. It's the only fight I recall that Hulk actually ripped someone's head off!
Galaxy Master was another middling cosmic that Savage Hulk humiliated... He does have a fine track record against Skyfather and above beings ... shame about the Zeus showing though.