Okla. senator wants ban on human fetuses in food

Just more government oppression trying to tell people what they can or can't eat. *sigh*

Story: OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A Republican state senator from Oklahoma City introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban the use of aborted human fetuses in food, despite conceding that he's unaware of any company using such a practice.

Freshman Sen. Ralph Shortey said his own Internet research led him to believe such a ban is necessary and prompted him to offer the bill aimed at raising "public awareness" and giving an "ultimatum to companies" that might consider such a policy.

Shortey said he discovered suggestions online that some companies use embryonic stem cells to develop artificial flavors, but added that he is unaware of any Oklahoma companies doing such research.

In an e-mail to The Associated Press, U.S. Food and Drug Administration spokeswoman Pat El-Hinnawy said: "FDA is not aware of this particular concern."

The executive director of the anti-abortion group Oklahomans for Life, which has successfully pushed some of the strictest anti-abortion laws in the country through the state's GOP-controlled Legislature, also said he had never heard of human fetuses being used in food research.

"I don't know anything about that," said Tony Lauinger.

Shortey's bill would prohibit the manufacture or sale of any food in which aborted fetuses were used to develop any of the ingredients. -end snip

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I would barf if I found out I was eating dead babies. ermmnone

Originally posted by Robtard
Shortey said he discovered suggestions online...

News at 10: Delaware representative taking millions out of state budget to assist exiled Nigerian royalty. Says move will build ties between the nations and provide excellent economic opportunities.

Wouldn't surprise me if government officials fell for a Craigslist scam.

So you can't eat a fetus, perfectly understandable. But you can use human foreskin in cosmetics...

Originally posted by Thoren
I would barf if I found out I was eating dead babies. ermmnone

I'd just let out a satisfied burp.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I'd just let out a satisfied burp.

😆

Damn it, this was the only reason I ate at In n Out. Bummer.

PepsiCo
Kraft
Nabisco
Nestle

Those are companies that use aborted fetal cells in the processing and testing of their products. I actually made a thread about it in the past. But of course, it was made into a huge joke, just like this thread is becoming...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
PepsiCo
Kraft
Nabisco
Nestle

Those are companies that use aborted fetal cells in the processing and testing of their products. I actually made a thread about it in the past. But of course, it was made into a huge joke, just like this thread is becoming...

I didn't think it was a joke. Look, lots of the people that post here are bored and cynical. That's not a good combination because we start making fairly low-brow jokes.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
But of course, it was made into a huge joke, just like this thread is becoming...

The big joke here is that none of the people involved seem to have heard about any of the companies using stem cells in product testing.

including the FDA it seems...

EDIT: does anyone have a link about this stuff that isn't from a news organization dedicated to anti-abortion issues?

Originally posted by inimalist
including the FDA it seems...

EDIT: does anyone have a link about this stuff that isn't from a news organization dedicated to anti-abortion issues?

The company in question is Semonyx. They have a number of published papers you could try to track down:
http://www.senomyx.com/flavor_programs/SciPub.htm

They also have this patent (which includes the actual sequence of bases they're patenting)
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,297,543.PN.&OS=PN/7,297,543&RS=PN/7,297,543

It mentions HEK-23, which is a very old line of embryonic stem cells. The claim that "they get cells from abortion clinics" appears to be complete nonsense. Their scientists are specifically trying to patent a cell line because it acts the way they want.

This is the kind seems like it should be a moral conundrum for people opposing the research on the basis that stems cells are babies, if anything Senomyx is ensuring their immortality. Ending the research means killing babies.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
This is the kind seems like it should be a moral conundrum for people opposing the research on the basis that stems cells are babies, if anything, Senomyx is ensuring their immortality. Ending the research means killing babies.

Those bastards.

😐

In that case...

"The [stemcells] must flow..."

+5000 point if to the person that gets the quote.

Spoiler:
I am not being a smartass. It seems rather logical that stem cells will/can be used to create biological immortality. Full control over stem cells coupled with a mature nanorobotic technology will realize this for us.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The company in question is Semonyx. They have a number of published papers you could try to track down:
http://www.senomyx.com/flavor_programs/SciPub.htm

They also have this patent (which includes the actual sequence of bases they're patenting)
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,297,543.PN.&OS=PN/7,297,543&RS=PN/7,297,543

It mentions HEK-23, which is a very old line of embryonic stem cells. The claim that "they get cells from abortion clinics" appears to be complete nonsense. Their scientists are specifically trying to patent a cell line because it acts the way they want.

This is the kind seems like it should be a moral conundrum for people opposing the research on the basis that stems cells are babies, if anything Senomyx is ensuring their immortality. Ending the research means killing babies.

The baby was already aborted, meaning it was already killed. Ending the research does not mean "killing babies", it would serve justice to the over 52 million (and counting) unborn children aborted since Roe v. Wade.

The fact that they're using it in food processing and testing is a disgrace (and sickening, to boot).

can you provide a link saying they get their cells from abortions?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
The baby was already aborted, meaning it was already killed. Ending the research does not mean "killing babies", it would serve justice to the over 52 million (and counting) unborn children aborted since Roe v. Wade.

The fact that they're using it in food processing and testing is a disgrace (and sickening, to boot).

I figure that since those children are already dead and aborted, the parents should get to donate their children to science to save lives.

Think about it: if our stem cell research allows us to create biological immortality, it will save all lives. All. Of. Them. How is that not a good use of the "fallen"? The parents are going to abort the babies, anyway.

Surely you, even as a Christian, can see why it would be a waste to just turn them into worm food. If God doesn't want us to become immortal, He can come down here and stop it. He hasn't stopped abortions so I don't see it happening anytime soon. And, no, I'm not an atheist like it might seem. I just see all of that aborted tissue as very useful.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I figure that since those children are already dead and aborted, the parents should get to donate their children to science to save lives.

Think about it: if our stem cell research allows us to create biological immortality, it will save all lives. All. Of. Them. How is that not a good use of the "fallen"? The parents are going to abort the babies, anyway.

Surely you, even as a Christian, can see why it would be a waste to just turn them into worm food. If God doesn't want us to become immortal, He can come down here and stop it. He hasn't stopped abortions so I don't see it happening anytime soon. And, no, I'm not an atheist like it might seem. I just see all of that aborted tissue as very useful.

The same "parents" that allowed some doctor to snip the life out of their child in the womb? Does Casey Anthony get to choose what her daughter's body is used for?

Biological immortality? Why? What are you afraid of, that you have to live forever? Are you afraid that you might have to be accountable for what went on here on earth?

God will have His day of judgment and wrath. You can count on that. He's allowing it for now (we have free will, of course) It says in the Bible:

I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. (Isaiah 66:4)

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12)

But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. (2 Timothy 3:13)

Originally posted by dadudemon
[B]

"The [stemcells] must flow..."

+5000 point if to the person that gets the quote.

Spice!

Which raises the question...Which would compliment tender fetus legs?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
The same "parents" that allowed some doctor to snip the life out of their child in the womb? Does Casey Anthony get to choose what her daughter's body is used for?

Yes, those parents. No, Casey Anthony doesn't get to choose because her daughter was rotted a bit and her daughter was not an embryo.

I should also remind you that Casey Anthony was found innocent by a jury of her peers. Don't forget about this important teaching: judge not.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Biological immortality? Why? What are you afraid of, that you have to live forever? Are you afraid that you might have to be accountable for what went on here on earth?

I am accountable for what went on here on earth. So are you. Living forever as a biological entity, if God allows it, will not change that. So why not live forever? If God doesn't want it to happen, He'll stop it. 🙂 I asked God and He didn't answer, so I'm quite sure it is okay if we humans fulfill the absolute most altruistic thing ever done in the history of humanity (baring the Atonement, of course): curing death.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
God will have His day of judgment and wrath. You can count on that. He's allowing it for now (we have free will, of course)

I don't believe in the wrathful vengeful, petty, immature God. Any time I see the word "wrath" when it concerns God, I only assume it means God is withdrawing his helpful counceling (like, "Don't go into that building: you'll step on a nail and get tetnus" or "You should help that man stranded on the highway because his car will cause the death of a family if he doesn't get moving"😉.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
[b]I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. (Isaiah 66:4)[/B]

You have nothing to fear because I asked God. He ain't even mad about the immortality thing. He even wants us all to obtain it.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12))

So God is committing evil by forcing his children to become delusional...which causes them not to be able to see the righteous path and be "damned" because of it? What an immature, petty, prick. Don't you think? Surely you don't interpret that at a direct reading? If you do, the God you believe in is just as bad as some of the worst Greek Gods.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. (2 Timothy 3:13)

In this information age, it is becoming more difficult to be deceived. I love the information age. It's like...the exact opposite of what that scripture portrays. Me thinks that scripture was not a reference to the information age but a reference to something far more contemporary. What do you think?

So, again, why let the embryos, which have already been aborted, be used for something righteous? Is it not the greater sin to waste those embryos and NOT save lives with them?

Originally posted by jaden101
Spice!

Which raises the question...Which would compliment tender fetus legs?

I wonder...expanding your consciousness while munching down on some tender, juicy, fetuses? LET THE SPICE FLOW!

Also, +5000 points to you for getting the reference. 😄