Naruto vs Sasuke

Started by Damborgson5 pages

Originally posted by socool8520
Yes but even with 5 at a time, it will be hard for him to handle.

Amaterasu does not spread like wildfire. the Sasuke/Itachi fight lasted awhile and stuck mostly to the trees as I recall. A's arm was burning forever before he chopped it off. It may burn everything, but it seems to take longer than normal fire. Plus, Sasuke has never been seen to spam it like Itachi could.

It doesn't seem to spread fast, and Sasuke hasn't shown that he can cover a wide area with it. Plus, he is gonna be using up a lot of chakra for a last resort move.

You're right it doesn't. But he had to have Itachi's spamming of Amaterasu plus a few huge fireballs to even start the tech. Sasuke would be out of chakra before he could do that himself. He blew a couple fireballs, did a little taijutsu and a few chidoris and he was done. not to mention he has to do all of this while fending off Naruto's attacks.

It will.

That really seemed like PIS to me. Did you see how fast it spread against B? It was spreading quickly even in water.

He can spam it pretty well. Used it twice against Raikage, several short bursts against Gaara, and he had a mini susanoo up during this and managed to make a skeletal one after also. He's pretty good when he's all crazy and hating everything.

He did seem to go quick but the curse mark goes both ways. It amps the wielder but drains him pretty well after the use iirc. And he did use it pretty heavily.

How can it be PIS? The fire on A's arm also burned forever before he finally cut it off. It's inconsistent if anything.

I don't really call that spamming. At least not to a great degree.

Yeah, and he no longer has that so that one major source of chakra gone. Also I don't know what "iirc" means

And I dont know what PIS means

Originally posted by ichigo12
And I dont know what PIS means

PIS stands for Plot Induced Stupidity. It's when something really stupid happens when the plot needs it to happen. I'm blanking on a good example of that.

CIS is Character Induced Stupidity. It's when a character does something really stupid because the plot needs them to do it. I.e, Kakuzu is able to think ahead and prepare for strategies from Shikamaru but is unable to keep track of the clones that formed in front of his eyes.

At least, that's how I see it.

Ohh xD thanks 😛

Originally posted by socool8520
How can it be PIS? The fire on A's arm also burned forever before he finally cut it off. It's inconsistent if anything.

I don't really call that spamming. At least not to a great degree.

Yeah, and he no longer has that so that one major source of chakra gone. Also I don't know what "iirc" means

Because of how fast it burnt on B. And in the forest, and it burned through Jiriya's toad stomach trap very quickly also.

Difference in opinion i guess.

He hasn't needed it so far in order to use Amaterasu effectively though.

iirc means if i remember correctly. at least the way I'm using it lol.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Because of how fast it burnt on B. And in the forest, and it burned through Jiriya's toad stomach trap very quickly also.

Difference in opinion i guess.

He hasn't needed it so far in order to use Amaterasu effectively though.

iirc means if i remember correctly. at least the way I'm using it lol.

I don't remeber it burning quickly on B. I remember it spreading relatively fast I guess, but It didn't consume him. It did the same thing it did in the A fight, it simply stayed burning.

This is a stomp.

Sasuke can easily put Naruto and the fox in a genjutsu.

If there was no PIS in the manga Sasuke would literally win this fight by just looking at them.

Naruto can use Kurama to break out of a Genjutsu, like Bee did

Originally posted by Samurai100
Naruto can use Kurama to break out of a Genjutsu, like Bee did

Then Sasuke enters Naruto's mind suppresses Kurama like he did in the beginning of Shippuden.

Literally, one look.

Even without the Genjutsu he has Susanoo which shits on all the tailed beasts.

If it was that easy then why hasn't Tobi, a superior Sharingan user to Sasuke and someone who has shown control over Kurama in the past, done that yet?

Clearly a Bijuu that has been mastered is not susceptible to that.

9-tails even confirmed the fact that Sasuke's chakra was so much greater than his own before he suppressed him.

And Sasuke has grown so much more powerful since then. He probably doesn't even need to just his Sharingan to defeat Naruto at this point.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If it was that easy then why hasn't Tobi, a superior Sharingan user to Sasuke

How is Tobi a superior user? He doesn't even have the Mangekyo. And we don't even know if he's Uchiha to begin with.

Originally posted by Nephthys Clearly a Bijuu that has been mastered is not susceptible to that.

If all fails then Sasuke can still one-shot Naruto with the Amaterasu like he did with Bee.

He says Sasukes chakra is more 'sinister' than his own, not greater. Bullshit does Sasuke have more chakra than a friggin Bijuu.

And Naruto is blowing up mountains at this point in the manga and fighting 5 Bijuu at once. Bullshit is Sasuke pwning him without the Sharingan.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
How is Tobi a superior user? He doesn't even have the Mangekyo. And we don't even know if he's Uchiha to begin with.

If all fails then Sasuke can still one-shot Naruto with the Amaterasu like he did with Bee.

He's shown more skill with it than Sasuke, extinquishing Itachi's Amaratsu without much effort, controlling the 4th Mizukage for a long period of time, genjutsu'ed Fu and Torune, forcing Konan to spill the beans about the Rinnengans hiding place, he's able to use Izanagi and he's able to control the Kyuubi.

You mean when Bee played Sasuke for a fool and got away? Yeah, I agree, that's how its going to go.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He says Sasukes chakra is more 'sinister' than his own, not greater.

Greater or sinister what does it matter? The context clearly proves that Sasuke is more powerful.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And Naruto is blowing up mountains at this point in the manga and fighting 5 Bijuu at once. Bullshit is Sasuke pwning him without the Sharingan.

Sasuke blew up a mountain too, with lightning.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Greater or sinister what does it matter? The context clearly proves that Sasuke is more powerful.

Sasuke blew up a mountain too, with lightning.

No it doesn't. Being more sinister isn't even close to being the same thing as being greater. Kurama was still shackled in his cage at that point. No wonder Sasuke could suppress him while he's already being surpressed, lol.

That wasn't his own power. He needs time to set it up. Besides it was more of a hill. If it was really that powerful then it would have hit Sasuke as well.; He wasn't exactly far away from Itachi at that point considering they could still speak to each other. Naruto just Bijuu Balled a mountain to pieces. GG Sasuke.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it doesn't. Being more sinister isn't even close to being the same thing as being greater. Kurama was still shackled in his cage at that point. No wonder Sasuke could suppress him while he's already being surpressed, lol.

Why do you ignore the context?

When someone says that another skater has wicked skills, do you also think he means he's evil?

Originally posted by Nephthys
That wasn't his own power. He needs time to set it up. Besides it was more of a hill. If it was really that powerful then it would have hit Sasuke as well.; He wasn't exactly far away from Itachi at that point considering they could still speak to each other. Naruto just Bijuu Balled a mountain to pieces. GG Sasuke.

No it was a mountain, the Uchiha temple was located on a mountain, read the Databook, and that was when Sasuke was still shit-tier.

But I'm glad that you concede in that Sasuke doesn't have to use his Sharingan to put up a fight.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Why do you ignore the context?

When someone says that another skater has wicked skills, do you also think he means he's evil?

You believe that Kurama was using slang? Slang through the translation? Lol, why don't you prove that saying something is 'sinister' in Japanese means that its overwhelmingly powerful/greater.

All he said was that Sasuke has scary eyes and chakra. That doesn't make Sasuke have more power than a Bijuu.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
No it was a mountain, the Uchiha temple was located on a mountain, read the Databook, and that was when Sasuke was still shit-tier.

But I'm glad that you concede in that Sasuke doesn't have to use his Sharingan to put up a fight.

Either way the technique is inefficient considering you have to create storm clouds to do it. Sasuke won'#t have time to set it up before Naruto obliterates him. Even if he does, Naruto can likely clear the sky with a bijuu ball anyway.

No, I just think that Sharingan will be useless anyway. But if you're willing to argue without Sharingan, that works for me too.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler

If all fails then Sasuke can still one-shot Naruto with the Amaterasu like he did with Bee.

What you mean after getting shit stomped and healed from near death like twice? good call. That's probably what would happen in this situation as well, and it would probably only be one of Naruto's clones that takes the hit.