Sage Naruto and MS Sasuke vs Konoha 11

Okay I just remembered a forum on manga stream stating that Sasuke could take on the whole Konoha 11 by himself. Also that Naruto could more or less do the same thing while using Sage mode. So I just want to see how they do.

However I want to set it up in 3 scenarios in order to see the interesting result that come out of them.

This is Sage Naruto and MS Sasuke(Danzo fight) against the Konoha 11. In all 3 scenarios the Konoha 11 fight them all at once.

Round 1: Sage Naruto fights the Konoha 11.

Round 2: Sasuke fights the Konoha 11

Round 3: Sasuke and Naruto fight the Konoha 11 together.

So who wins?

Round 1: Konoha 11 more likely than not. Naruto only has 5 minutes, which might get reduced due to Shino's bugs. Neji's Kaiten makes for a good defense if Naruto tries taijutsu and he only has two shots of RS. Then again, he is faster than everyone except possibly Gates Lee and can make clones to weaken the number advantage. Still, Ino is in a position to take over his mind long enough for Sai to seal him if he needs to. 😛

Round: Arguably does worse or better. Worse because he does not have as much stamina, clones, or chakra sensing to keep track of everyone. Better because he has flight, hax defense, and in general is better at his base mode than Naruto is. He also has faster attacks, like his arrows and Amaterasu, and can save genjutsu and Chidori for the noobs. Still, Ino/Sai combo is hax and I doubt Sasuke would target them first since, well, they're not as big(lol) a threat as Choji, Lee, Neji, Sakura, etc.

Together they would win though. Apart both share a decent change, with me just giving the slight edge to the Konoha 11 due to Shikamaru being in a position to make a strategy(since I doubt either team would target him first).

questions, is Sai included and can Naruto summon?

@ Aura: Shino's bugs would die if they chakra leeched, would they not?

Konoha 11 so yeah. Just replace Naruto with Sai. I assume that is how it's supposed to go.

And yeah, probably. Still draining his chakra though.

another question: how many clones does he have in reserve?

Naruto has some other techs. He can do a water blast or oil fire blast at Shino's bugs. Naruto can also go kurama chakra mode (no tails) to blast away the bugs, as well.

Round 1: Naruto kills most of them in less than 2 or 3 seconds. However, Neji and Lee are strong enough and fast enough to avoid death (Naruto doesn't even have to touch them to deal a killing blow...his frog fu has super strong "blasting" effect that is enough to hurt Nagato's paths). Neji also has an ultimate defense which was supposedly better than Gaara's. I don't see Naruto getting the drop on Neji in Sage Mode. Lee would not be able to exchange ANY blows (no homo) with Naruto because it was result in Lee being seriously injured or death. So, I'll go with Lee just dodging as long as possible until SM wears out and Neji and Lee finishing him off once SM is gone. Still, it's a close call. I can change my mind if I read some good arguments on how Naruto can win.

2. Sasuke solos, easily, with Susano'o.

3. Sasuke solos, easily,with Susano'o.

Originally posted by marwash22
another question: how many clones does he have in reserve?

Although I'd personally argue Naruto could do better w/o reserves considering it only takes him a few seconds to enter Sage Mode. He can also summon though I'd argue against it since it's not his strong suit and can't really afford to waste any chakra.

Sai's also included in Naruto's place just to clear that up.

How does Sasuke easily solo? Wouldn't he have stamina problems and have to deal with Choji/Lee?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
How does Sasuke easily solo?

Originally posted by dadudemon
...with Susano'o.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Wouldn't he have stamina problems and have to deal with Choji/Lee?

If we assume CIS and PIS are off, then Sasuke goes into "insta-activate" mode for his Susano'o. He then proceeds to destroy them all with his arrows or punches. If Neji does his spinny thing, Sasuke can just pick him up and throw him, lol.

Gaara is a good matchup against a Susano'o user because he can manipulate the ground the user is standing on via his sand.

The Konoha 11? They are screwed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
If we assume CIS and PIS are off, then Sasuke goes into "insta-activate" mode for his Susano'o. He then proceeds to destroy them all with his arrows or punches. If Neji does his spinny thing, Sasuke can just pick him up and throw him, lol.

Gaara is a good matchup against a Susano'o user because he can manipulate the ground the user is standing on via his sand.

The Konoha 11? They are screwed.

Well I though he'd just use Amateratsu instead of resorting to Susanoo off the bad.

This reminds me of another argument on Mangastream, wish they still had their forums, that Shino could deal with the Susanoo or something 😕

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well I though he'd just use Amateratsu instead of resorting to Susanoo off the bad.

This reminds me of another argument on Mangastream, wish they still had their forums, that Shino could deal with the Susanoo or something 😕

Can Shino?

Cause I don't think it's possible unless you are Gaara and already had a grip on Madara or something, lol.

But, yeah, Sasuke should easily be able to solo if CIS is off.

i echo what DDM said, Naruto kills 'em all (excluding Lee and Neji) within a few seconds. Naruto can Summon the big toads and gather all the chakra he needs while they deal with Neji and Lee... then, if it's even necessary, Naruto can resume fighting.

Kiba may also b fast enough to evade Naruto's initial assault, but I'm no sure.

Neji's Rotation is not holding up against someone who tosses thousand ton Rhinos like baseballs.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Neji's Rotation is not holding up against someone who tosses thousand ton Rhinos like baseballs.

Where's your evidence to support that conclusion?

I could go all physics on you and state that a thrown kunai traveling at speed, with the sharp point hitting dead on (perpendicular to the spherical "plane" of Neji's rotation shield) produces far more PSI than a punch from Naruto's super strength Sage Mode fist.

You will definitely need this, now:

The best Naruto would do is knock the ball around (I mentioned this already from Susano'o) OR deflect Naruto's punch (most likely what would happen) "fluid kung fu" style.

What about a kunai held by Naruto traveling at full speed and backed up by his own physical strength?

This is all ignoring Naruto's substantial speed advantage, who is to say that Neji can get a rotation going before Naruto, say, comes close to punching him?

Also, stop being a pompous ass without being provoked. Or are you just butthurt against me for some reason? Or maybe you just have a really unfunny sense of humor?

pompous ass is DDM's base mode. Provoke him and he powers up to pretentious toolbag mode. 😛

Originally posted by NemeBro
What about a kunai held by Naruto traveling at full speed and backed up by his own physical strength?

I have not see Frog Fu use kunais nor have I seen Naruto use kunais as a stabbing object in sage mode.

The only way I've seen Neji's ultimate shield from working is if you stop Neji, himself, from rotating to make it (spiderwebbing was used to slow him down).

Originally posted by NemeBro
This is all ignoring Naruto's substantial speed advantage, who is to say that Neji can get a rotation going before Naruto, say, comes close to punching him?

I say it: Neji's speed was a 4.5 at the beginning of the Time Skip. That's the same as greats like Jiraiya and Kakashi. Hardly slow. He has the same speed rating as Lee and Sasuke, man.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, stop being a pompous ass without being provoked. Or are you just butthurt against me for some reason? Or maybe you just have a really unfunny sense of humor?

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That's just my own sense of humor. You were supposed to get a laugh out of it and say, "lol! DDM, you goofy bastard.". I had no idea that you'd get butthurt over it, man. SORRY! 🙁

At worst, I thought you'd reply back with your own hilarious comeback.

Unless of course, that was an attempt at a text-based deadpan humor (Like, "Dude...my mom is dead." Then when the other apologizes profusely, you laugh at him)? If so, you got me.

Just yesterday, Demonic Phoenix and I were making fun of having sex with eachtother's moms and wife...just to show I was totes joking.

Originally posted by marwash22
pompous ass is DDM's base mode. Provoke him and he powers up to pretentious toolbag mode. 😛

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Where's your evidence to support that conclusion?

I could go all physics on you and state that a thrown kunai traveling at speed, with the sharp point hitting dead on (perpendicular to the spherical "plane" of Neji's rotation shield) produces far more PSI than a punch from Naruto's super strength Sage Mode fist.

Didn't Naruto pretty much beat Neji's rotation with a single punch without even going 1-tails?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Didn't Naruto pretty much beat Neji's rotation with a single punch without even going 1-tails?

Neji didn't get full rotation mode, iirc.

If he did, Naruto just blasted away Neji's rotating chakra with his own causing an explosion which launched both of them.

But, when they "touched" chakra cloaks, Neji did not appear to be in full rotation mode, yet. Go check out that fight, again, and you'll see the panel I'm talking about. It's questionable on whether or not he got full rotation.

I'm not seeing anything suggesting he didn't get off a full rotation. Though if he wasn't able to get one off then his speed with it is pretty shit considering Naruto was running at him in full view and had time to shout out a few sentences.

In the cases of unclear panels we must turn to the anime:

YouTube video

I'm not seeing it being half-powered or anything. No body mentions it anyway.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have not see Frog Fu use kunais nor have I seen Naruto use kunais as a stabbing object in sage mode.

... You're arguing that he can't use a kunai?

The only way I've seen Neji's ultimate shield from working is if you stop Neji, himself, from rotating to make it (spiderwebbing was used to slow him down).

Why? Neji's chakra is finite, as are his physical abilites, and IIRC he has never rotated for long, why are you assuming it is unbreakable?

Why assume that something that relies on finite attributes to create is infinitely durable?

It's a No-Limits Fallacy.

I say it: Neji's speed was a 4.5 at the beginning of the Time Skip. That's the same as greats like Jiraiya and Kakashi. Hardly slow. He has the same speed rating as Lee and Sasuke, man.

Naruto in Sage Mode is much faster than either.

Hell, you yourself said that Naruto's blitzing of Asura Path Pain was the greatest demonstration of speed in the manga (At that point).

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That's just my own sense of humor. You were supposed to get a laugh out of it and say, "lol! DDM, you goofy bastard.". I had no idea that you'd get butthurt over it, man. SORRY! 🙁

At worst, I thought you'd reply back with your own hilarious comeback.

Unless of course, that was an attempt at a text-based deadpan humor (Like, "Dude...my mom is dead." Then when the other apologizes profusely, you laugh at him)? If so, you got me.

Just yesterday, Demonic Phoenix and I were making fun of having sex with eachtother's moms and wife...just to show I was totes joking.

I honestly had no idea if you were joking or not, that is why it bothered me. Most people I can tell when they are joking, I can't really do that when you do it. 😐