Citizen Steele vs Superman fist fight

This is a fist fight...no bfring....who wins?

spite. what is superman going to do in a pure slugfest?

CS

If it's a slugfest, Citizen Steel all the way.

reflex feats for citizen steel?

slug fest doesn't mean that superman can't use his speed. just that he can't fly.

Steel's not particularly fast. If speed's allow, then Clark can avoid him.

I don't see why speed wouldn't be allowed.

If its not allowed, its basically saying; Superman is letting him get hits.

If speed was explicitly stated to be equalized, that's another thing.

Citizen steel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Citizen steel.

WTF? 😕

Galan...is that you?

I did a double take as well.

I don't recall CS having any speed feats above a typical human. Nor do I recall it being implied that he was faster than a human.

If Superman is allowed to use even a fraction of his speed advantage, he'd win. If it's just trading blows, CS will be the last man standing.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF? 😕

Galan...is that you?

Originally posted by Cogito
I don't recall CS having any speed feats above a typical human. Nor do I recall it being implied that he was faster than a human.

If Superman is allowed to use even a fraction of his speed advantage, he'd win. If it's just trading blows, CS will be the last man standing.

Still not convinced of the last part.

Why does CS necessarily win if they simply take turns punching each other?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Still not convinced of the last part.

Why does CS necessarily win if they simply take turns punching each other?

I'm guessing people are going off the Gog battle. KC SUperman couldn't budge him, then Steel rocked him when his suit was ripped.

Although, there WAS that incidednt with Black Lantern KC Supes...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm guessing people are going off the Gog battle. KC SUperman couldn't budge him, then Steel rocked him when his suit was ripped.

Although, there WAS that incidednt with Black Lantern KC Supes...

Not even the combined efforts of the entire JSA (inc. KC Superman, Alan Scott, Obsidian, Thunderbolt, etc.) were able to come close to doing that:

Don't get me wrong, CS isn't without his low feats (which, imo, can be written off as PIS considering his history), but he should still take a slug-fest with Supes. Even if Superman managed to move CS with his blows, I don't see him causing any lasting damage. Hits from CS, on the other hand, would f*ck Supes up royally.

I forgot how much I liked Starman lol.

Although, based on what the Thunderbolt can do, is it not PIS for Gog to fall to Steel?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm guessing people are going off the Gog battle. KC SUperman couldn't budge him, then Steel rocked him when his suit was ripped.

Although, there WAS that incidednt with Black Lantern KC Supes...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Although, based on what the Thunderbolt can do, is it not PIS for Gog to fall to Steel?

I mean, we've only seen Jakeem 'let loose' with T-Bolt one time (when he was evil/insane), and when that happened, Jak conquered several dimensions.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The only low showing of citizen steel was when BL Kal-L simply knocked him away telling him a "paperweight".

Originally posted by Galan007
Depends what Jakeem ordered T-Bolt to do--which, knowing Jakeem, was probably nothing special.

I mean, we've only seen Jakeem 'let loose' with T-Bolt one time (when he was evil/insane), and when that happened, Jak conquered several dimensions.

Power Girl moved him, as well. THAT defines PIS, imo.

Move him? What do you mean by that? Does he have Blob powers? What's so special about "moving" him?

Originally posted by Galan007
Depends what Jakeem ordered T-Bolt to do--which, knowing Jakeem, was probably nothing special.

I mean, we've only seen Jakeem 'let loose' with T-Bolt one time (when he was evil/insane), and when that happened, Jak conquered several dimensions.

Power Girl moved him, as well. THAT defines PIS, imo.