Superman, GL, Supergirl Vs Hulk,Iron Man,Thor

Originally posted by Placidity

Wow, this thread is quite enlightening.

It really shows the Marvel fanboys for who they really are. In Comic Book Versions, fair enough, its not unreasonable to take either side for something like Superman vs Thor, but the movie versions? Really? And its also important to note that the feats for Superman have been brought to their attention, but somehow they still maintain Thor would win?

I also read somewhere that Hulk should not be dismissed against Superman - really?

If you want to know who NOT to take seriously - this thread will give you a few hints.

I mean for crying out loud, even Carver9 is saying Superman wins without difficulty!

Aside from Quan, who's saying Thor would win?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No BABY Kal-El could lift a car.

In Superman 4 Superman not only carries the Statue of Liberty but also moves the moon.

In Superman 3 he straightens the leaning tower of pisa.

In Superman 1 he's lifting up a huge amount of Earth from underground to stop an earthquake.

So yeah I can see where you might think he would struggle to lift a bus with lots of people and momentum. 😕

I didn't say he might struggle I said he did struggle. Thor is far more skilled and formidable for Superman to stand a chance imo.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I personally didn't see any evidence in that movie of Laufey being particularly powerful. And its not like Thor just shrugged off that attack. Though Im betting movie Superman would of.

Yes but tbh we saw nothing from Hulk or Thor to beleive they could contend with Superman in strength or speed. Hulk looks like he has an upgrade in the Avengers movie, but for now im afraid he has little (especially going by the Letterier movie)

Still most people are right Superman in the Reeves' movies was on another level.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, anyone actually watch Supergirl? Can someone post some feats?

Can't say that I remember it all, but aside from flying, she didnt really do much I think.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I understand in a liftathon not under the duress of his attacks he can lift a lot more than he can punch with.

I didn't say he might struggle I said he did struggle. Thor is far more skilled and formidable for Superman to stand a chance imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz.
Based on what?

Based on the relative ease in which Thor defeated Loki, the Destroyer, and all his foes. The guy was a beast powerless while Superman isn't skilled at all minus his powers. He got worked by a local diner bully.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Based on the relative ease in which Thor defeated Loki, the Destroyer, and all his foes.

And what feats did any of these guys have to put them in Superman's league.

Its like me saying Movie Spiderman destroys Movie Superman because he defeated Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus and Sandman.

Point We need feats to know what level we're operating first before we decide beating "so and so" is impressive.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And what feats did any of these guys have to put them in Superman's league.

Its like me saying Movie Spiderman destroys Movie Superman because he defeated Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus and Sandman.

Point We need feats to know what level we're operating first before we decide beating "so and so" is impressive.

Destroying cars and getting knocked into them didn't really damage asgardians that much. A manhole cover tossed at Superman obviously affected him it didn't break against his skin.

Thor defeated his enemies with relative ease while Superman struggled against opponents without impressive feats either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the movie the ease in which the Destroyer was so far beyond any threats save Thor and how much stronger regular asgardians were than humans.

Destroying cars and getting knocked into them didn't really damage asgardians that much. A manhole cover tossed at Superman obviously affected him it didn't break against his skin.

Thor defeated his enemies with relative ease while Superman struggled against opponents without impressive feats either.

Besides Superman's feats from 1-4 pretty much make him better than anything Thor showed.

Thor's best showing that we can kind of quantify and understand is that landscape srushing attack he used.

Everything else doesn't matter.

The movie didn't focus on how much stronger the Asgardians are compared to humans, or in a way we can say they are in the same tier as Superman is based on feats. They really didn't have anything like that.

The destroyer suffers from the same thing. Implied power does not equate to real power. You can only go by feats.

The Destroyer was quite pathetic in the movie, the whole fight between it and Thor (and the warriors three) was barely causing any damage to the street it was taking place on.

Superman was poisoned with kryptonite and still lifted an island into space, he lifted an oceanliner too, before that.

There's no conceivable reason for arguing this. MOVIES versions are limited to what feats they demonstrate IN THE MOVIES. Superman has had far more showings and he generally is shown at levels of power not too far removed from the comics. Thor has yet to show anything above IronMan stuff... including hammering a 'silver knight' who couldn't even contend with a tornado.

Maybe Thor has some impressive feats in the '80s Hulk movie, but then he looked like Fabio so maybe not 😕.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you going to debate this time or just keep the lulz coming ?

Based on the relative ease in which Thor defeated Loki, the Destroyer, and all his foes. The guy was a beast powerless while Superman isn't skilled at all minus his powers. He got worked by a local diner bully.

Originally posted by Newjak
I think you need to stop with the manhole cover Superman obviously has feats that change plus what is the context? Did other Kprtonians hit him with the manhole cover? Cause then it's not a low feat.

Besides Superman's feats from 1-4 pretty much make him better than anything Thor showed.

Thor's best showing that we can kind of quantify and understand is that landscape srushing attack he used.

Everything else doesn't matter.

The movie didn't focus on how much stronger the Asgardians are compared to humans, or in a way we can say they are in the same tier as Superman is based on feats. They really didn't have anything like that.

The destroyer suffers from the same thing. Implied power does not equate to real power. You can only go by feats.

Feats are feats but Thor's hammer and his strength are obviously enough to injure/defeat Superman based off the movies.

To you it might not matter but not to me.

No, I never only go by feats. Ever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You aren't getting the point he should be durable enough for the manhole cover to break off against him since since he isn't things such as this can obviously affect him.

Feats are feats but Thor's hammer and his strength are obviously enough to injure/defeat Superman based off the movies.

To you it might not matter but not to me.

No, I never only go by feats. Ever.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't even blink at a point blank gun shot and the bullet flattened. That manhole was able to hurt superman because it was thrown by a kryptonian.
Again lulz.

Thor is far more skilled than Superman and ios powerful enough to hurt/destroy him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, a bullet didn't phase his eye but a manhole cover which was thrown far slower than a bullet hurt him. You can't dismiss certain feats and only use others.

Thor is far more skilled than Superman and ios powerful enough to hurt/destroy him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thrown by someone equal to him in strength. Happens in the comics all the time.
Lulz.

Are you saying Superman won't be hurt by Thor's hammer.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Are you saying Superman won't be hurt by Thor's hammer.

Theres nothing to suggest he would be harmed by it. And even if it can hurt him, he can easily evade it with his speed.

Originally posted by Newjak
I think you need to stop with the manhole cover Superman obviously has feats that change plus what is the context? Did other Kprtonians hit him with the manhole cover? Cause then it's not a low feat.

Yep it was thrown at him by a Krytonian at a point when he was already recovering from a fight with another Krytonian.

So yeah just a little bit of context missed out there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What feats did the three renegades have ?

Are you saying Superman won't be hurt by Thor's hammer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
They battled and defeated superman who has the feats, do you argue that captain marvel is a peer of superman on feats?
No, it wouldn't. Other than zoners, there isn't an instance in other canon movies where he was hurt by anything besides kryptonite.

thats because in movie 1 and returns, his villain is...gasp! lex luthor!

actually if you take the movies individually, In superman 2, superman or the kryptonian criminals didn't do anything impressive that i recall.

movies 1 and returns on the other hand have him at stupidly powerful levels.

if we go by movies

1 - Superman solos
2 - Thor could probably take superman, not too sure, been a while since i watched superman 2, come to think of it, i have a copy lying around somewhere, might as well go watch some superman 2 for the lols.
3 - Superman solos

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Theres nothing to suggest he would be harmed by it. And even if it can hurt him, he can easily evade it with his speed.

Yep it was thrown at him by a Krytonian at a point when he was already recovering from a fight with another Krytonian.

So yeah just a little bit of context missed out there.

It wasn't thrown faster than a bullet I suggest you rewatch the scene.

Originally posted by abhilegend
They battled and defeated superman who has the feats, do you argue that captain marvel is a peer of superman on feats?
No, it wouldn't. Other than zoners, there isn't an instance in other canon movies where he was hurt by anything besides kryptonite.

Zoners didn't throw the manhole anywhere near as fast as a bullet. What other supernatural beings did Superman go up against which failed to hurt him ?