Superman, GL, Supergirl Vs Hulk,Iron Man,Thor

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't easily evade a manhole or attacks from 3 slow knians who never used superspeed. In fact they were much slower in combat than Thor was on screen. Be objective.

It wasn't thrown faster than a bullet I suggest you rewatch the scene. Yes, but they didn't use superspeed one time. The manhole was thrown far slower than a bullet. The k-nians on screen fought with slower reaction time than Thor displayed.

Zoners didn't throw the manhole anywhere near as fast as a bullet. What other supernatural beings did Superman go up against which failed to hurt him ?

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I think it's pretty unfair to use the 4 or 5 Superman movies against one Thor movie. Its similar to saying the first Superman movie vs comic book Thor. It'll be fair once Thor has 4 movies out but for now it should be just one of Superman movies and GL and SG vs one of IM's and TIH and Thor.

In Thor, another feat that should be mentioned is when he gained his powers back after being killed by the Destroyer, Mjolnir is flying at lightning speed. The movie shows that Thor has complete control over Mjolnir (someone in these 5 pages said Mjolnir was never shown at that speed).

If we're using Iron Man 2, towards the end of the movie, he uses the laser beam to end the fight against the HAMMER drones. That's a feat that could knockout SuperGirl, Green Lantern, and possibly Superman (bet you guys will love that). Obviously he would get destroyed by Supes but just saying.

Green Lantern is no slouch either, but if we're using the movie version Hal is still a beginner with the ring.

Out of GL and SG vs IM and Hulk, I'd say Marvel Wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't easily evade a manhole or attacks from 3 slow knians who never used superspeed. In fact they were much slower in combat than Thor was on screen. Be objective.

Your basically attacking the special effects of a 30 year old movie. They couldn't make every scene fought at super speed in those days.

But he's already shown in Superman 1 that he's faster than a speeding bullet as well as being bullet proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It wasn't thrown faster than a bullet I suggest you rewatch the scene.

Actually he was taken by surprise after a big tussle with Non. So I suggest you rewatch. I dnt need to. Iv watched that movie more times than you can imagine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, but they didn't use superspeed one time. The manhole was thrown far slower than a bullet. The k-nians on screen fought with slower reaction time than Thor displayed.

Your points are all Mute, because Supes already showed in Superman 1 that he's faster than a speeding bullet. He showed in Returns that even his eye crushes a bullet. Thor has nothing on him in speed or strength.

Originally posted by Americas Shadow
I think it's pretty unfair to use the 4 or 5 Superman movies against one Thor movie.

Not really considering Thor's a modern day movie full of CGI special effects to show off his powers.

Just compare to Superman Returns if you like (even though I hate that movie).

Supes is still out of Thor's league in strength and speed.

Originally posted by Americas Shadow
I think it's pretty unfair to use the 4 or 5 Superman movies against one Thor movie. Its similar to saying the first Superman movie vs comic book Thor. It'll be fair once Thor has 4 movies out but for now it should be just one of Superman movies and GL and SG vs one of IM's and TIH and Thor.

In Thor, another feat that should be mentioned is when he gained his powers back after being killed by the Destroyer, Mjolnir is flying at lightning speed. The movie shows that Thor has complete control over Mjolnir (someone in these 5 pages said Mjolnir was never shown at that speed).

If we're using Iron Man 2, towards the end of the movie, he uses the laser beam to end the fight against the HAMMER drones. That's a feat that could knockout SuperGirl, Green Lantern, and possibly Superman (bet you guys will love that). Obviously he would get destroyed by Supes but just saying.

Green Lantern is no slouch either, but if we're using the movie version Hal is still a beginner with the ring.

Out of GL and SG vs IM and Hulk, I'd say Marvel Wins.

This is so one sided it's not worth debating.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did you learn that mjolnir was flying at lightspeed? It was so fast that they saw it coming, the doctor moved jane away with some delay and they still got away a safe distance before it landed in thor's hands. Wow, what a speed! Tony said he can't use it twice, so it's moot anyways. Nope, gl would stomp hulk and iron man, his auto-shields were tough enough to protect him from sun's proximity while he was unconscious and strong ennugh to punch parallax in the sun against his will. He also crashed into meteor too IIRC.

How is it moot? He has one in each arm and the last 10 seconds give or take. Thats one person each arm then enough time for a third.

Originally posted by Americas Shadow
How is it moot? He has one in each arm and the last 10 seconds give or take. Thats one person each arm then enough time for a third.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like I said this type of stuff always happens in comics. Characters swing and throw objects that hurt other characters who should shrug them off in normal condition. You as always lowball whoever you don't like. That manhole isn't a low feat even if you scream till you're blue in face. Well for starters, he survived heat of re-entry and crashing from space without a scratch while totally exhausted. What did thor survive to compare?

Superman was amped when he survived and I never said Thor was more durable than Superman more skilled and a better fighter. Lulz.

If we are using the version of Superman that moved a moon.. then there is no contest. Thor has no feats to suggest he is that powerful.

If we're using Superman Returns it's a more fair fight, but that isn't what's being debated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am citing evidence you tried using he goes back in time as a legitimate tactic.

Superman was amped when he survived and I never said Thor was more durable than Superman more skilled and a better fighter. Lulz.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
thats because in movie 1 and returns, his villain is...gasp! lex luthor!

actually if you take the movies individually, In superman 2, superman or the kryptonian criminals didn't do anything impressive that i recall.

movies 1 and returns on the other hand have him at stupidly powerful levels.

if we go by movies

1 - Superman solos
2 - Thor could probably take superman, not too sure, been a while since i watched superman 2, come to think of it, i have a copy lying around somewhere, might as well go watch some superman 2 for the lols.
3 - Superman solos

You know they're all in continuity with one another right? It's the same character.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Your basically attacking the special effects of a 30 year old movie. They couldn't make every scene fought at super speed in those days.

But he's already shown in Superman 1 that he's faster than a speeding bullet as well as being bullet proof.[/B]

Actually he was taken by surprise after a big tussle with Non. So I suggest you rewatch. I dnt need to. Iv watched that movie more times than you can imagine.

Your points are all Mute, because Supes already showed in Superman 1 that he's faster than a speeding bullet. He showed in Returns that even his eye crushes a bullet. Thor has nothing on him in speed or strength.[/B]

Not really considering Thor's a modern day movie full of CGI special effects to show off his powers.

Just compare to Superman Returns if you like (even though I hate that movie).

Supes is still out of Thor's league in strength and speed. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is just rich now you are blaming the special effects. We saw Superman go back in time he went so fast so when they wanted to portray him as fast they did.
I never said he wasn't.

I don't need to rewatch the movie.

Superman is faster but not more formidable or more impressive while in combat.

Superman stomps./thread

Originally posted by abhilegend
Blah, blah, blah and more blah.yawning

Superman stomps./thread

Originally posted by quanchi112
So then you concede again. Thor is too skilled and powerful to lose to Superman with how Superman and Thor fight in character on screen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is just rich now you are blaming the special effects. We saw Superman go back in time he went so fast so when they wanted to portray him as fast they did.
I never said he wasn't.

I don't need to rewatch the movie.

Superman is faster but not more formidable or more impressive while in combat.

Whether you like it or not you're lowballing feats from a 30 year old movie without CGI and with the very limited special effects of that time.

There was no matrix slow motion style at that time.

Yes they showed him travelling ftl and the end of the first movie. But you're lowballing by saying we did not see combat speed. Do you know how hard that would have been in those days??

And to show that level of speed in every scene would have been very expensive. If you want to lowball the speed thing, pick a scene from Superman Returns which is a modern movie in which the budget wasn't an issue (because Bryan Singer didn't give a crud).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Whether you like it or not you're lowballing feats from a 30 year old movie without CGI and with the very limited special effects of that time.

There was no matrix slow motion style at that time.

Yes they showed him travelling ftl and the end of the first movie. But you're lowballing by saying we did not see combat speed. Do you know how hard that would have been in those days??

And to show that level of speed in every scene would have been very expensive. If you want to lowball the speed thing, pick a scene from Superman Returns which is a modern movie in which the budget wasn't an issue (because Bryan Singer didn't give a crud).

I am simply being objective and not going by what if's. Superman fighting in character isn't as skilled or would react fast enough to best movie Thor. That's just my opinion don't let difference scare you. We just don't agree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't a retort.

Whether you like it or not even back then he went so fast on screen he went back in time but that doesn't count as an example of super speed, right ?

I am simply being objective and not going by what if's. Superman fighting in character isn't as skilled or would react fast enough to best movie Thor. That's just my opinion don't let difference scare you. We just don't agree.

Thor while good never really showed any speed feats in his film that come close to that.

You wanna see a good example of Superman using speed look at Returns we he had to save all those people when the flood was coming.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't a retort.

Whether you like it or not even back then he went so fast on screen he went back in time but that doesn't count as an example of super speed, right ?

I am simply being objective and not going by what if's. Superman fighting in character isn't as skilled or would react fast enough to best movie Thor. That's just my opinion don't let difference scare you. We just don't agree.