Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he did so not while in battle so it's out of character for him to do so in battle.Thor showed himself to battle much faster against super powered opponents and with greater skill than Superman.
I think Superman will use superspeed to save people's lives just not to punch someone in the face. Your responses say otherwise. Anyway you conceded the debate to me so move on.
Its got nothing to do with fighting in character, its to do with special effects and movie budget in that time. Thats it. They didnt have the special effects to in those day to show 2 Kryptonians fighting at superspeed.
Now your going to say "but they showed him fly ftl", but:
1) It would have been expensive to do that effect constantly and
2) Its a completely different effect to having 2 people fight each other at superspeed.
End of.
If you cant accept this simple fact then Il assume you're just trolling.
Originally posted by abhilegendI don't think highly of someone who doesn't even know how to spell debater.
Huh, I'm not you quan? If it was, I'd call you a debator which I didn't, so you're wrong again.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERBe objective they showed super speed just not when the k-nians fought.
Its got nothing to do with fighting in character, its to do with special effects and movie budget in that time. Thats it. They didnt have the special effects to in those day to show 2 Kryptonians fighting at superspeed.Now your going to say "but they showed him fly ftl", but:
1) It would have been expensive to do that effect constantly and
2) Its a completely different effect to having 2 people fight each other at superspeed.End of.
If you cant accept this simple fact then Il assume you're just trolling.
Irrelevant.
You can't just assume they'd add it in they didn't. We argue based on facts not speculation. Superman uses superspeed to save lives not to combat villains.
Originally posted by Sirius77
You know they're all in continuity with one another right? It's the same character.
yes i know and my point was if i saw superman 2 and didnt see superman 1 and returns and then i watched me some thor movie. base on only these two movies that i watched, i'd give thor the win over superman.
now if i watched superman 1 and thor only, i'd say, thor gets wtf stomped. same thing if i only saw superman returns and thor, thor gets wtf stomped.
but since all three are in continuity, thor gets wtf stomped and superman goes to solo team marvel.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think highly of someone who doesn't even know how to spell debater. Be objective they showed super speed just not when the k-nians fought.Irrelevant.
You can't just assume they'd add it in they didn't. We argue based on facts not speculation. Superman uses superspeed to save lives not to combat villains.
You are far from objective. If you dnt understand a simple concept that high combat speed was difficult to show in a 30 year old movie, then theres nothing more for us to discuss.
And FYI you're the one speculating. You're accusation that Superman decides never to use speed when fighting villains, but only to save lives, is the most baseless piece of speculation anyone could come up with.
And it doesn't even make sense. Because he's only fought super villains TO Save Lives.
Besides Im sure Superman was chasing nuclear man all over the planet and to the moon while fighting him, so you're wrong anyway. Thats the most you're gna get in terms of combat speed from 30 year old movies.
Iv explained this to you many times now, so you can either accept the simple fact or keep trolling. Im certainly not going to waste any more time on a troll.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThat's immaterial it didn't happen yet his best superspeed feat occurred in the movie. If you can't see you're speculating then I can't help you.
You are far from objective. If you dnt understand a simple concept that high combat speed was difficult to show in a 30 year old movie, then theres nothing more for us to discuss.And FYI you're the one speculating. You're accusation that Superman decides never to use speed when fighting villains, but only to save lives, is the most baseless piece of speculation anyone could come up with.
And it doesn't even make sense. Because he's only fought super villains TO Save Lives.
Besides Im sure Superman was chasing nuclear man all over the planet and to the moon while fighting him, so you're wrong anyway. Thats the most you're gna get in terms of combat speed from 30 year old movies.
Iv explained this to you many times now, so you can either accept the simple fact or keep trolling. Im certainly not going to waste any more time on a troll.
When does Superman use superspeed when fighting a super villain ? Give me examples. If you can't then you must concede the point.
Show me a clip of him fighting at superspeed. Asking you to back your claim isn't trolling it's debating try it sometime.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I think I'm the only one who has seen Supergirl. On TV. I just don't remember it. :/
It was such a sucky movie.
Supergirl plays with round power thingy and causes it to go shooting out of the city and into earth coz she's stooooopid
Then she goes after it through a ball where she is magically aged and transformed into Supergirl
Some crazy biyetch gets the silly energy ball thingy, sends supergirl to some freaky dimension
climbs up a hill, sees sun, gets powered up aaaaannndd, cant remember what other shit happened.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So beastly that he needed to punch a car several times just to break it and got koed by thrown into a building. He didn't even have a HF! I like hulk a lot, but that movie=shit
was it shit because they used a weaker Hulk or for other reasons?
The movie was far better than Ang Lee's boring disaster, and it was a decent film if you ask me.
The Hulk movies were disappointing because they didn't feature The Hulk. They featured some green skinned version of The Thing.
Hulk's difficult to transfer over to film, the amount of damage he does, the way that he can toy with nukes and such... in a film the suspension of disbelief would be too great. That's why I find the Hulk animated movies to be far superior (Hulk vs Wolverine, Planet Hulk, Hulk vs Thor), in such a form, the feats are acceptable and the plots can be more interesting.
If they want to make a 'realistic' Hulk movie, they should have used the Loki story of the formation of The Avengers. Hulk mind-controlled and unstoppable, Thor, IronMan et all needing to team up to stand a chance ... That would have been a decent movie.
Anyway back on topic, I still don't see how any of the Marvel characters stands up against Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's immaterial it didn't happen yet his best superspeed feat occurred in the movie. If you can't see you're speculating then I can't help you.When does Superman use superspeed when fighting a super villain ? Give me examples. If you can't then you must concede the point.
Show me a clip of him fighting at superspeed. Asking you to back your claim isn't trolling it's debating try it sometime.
I already did. He was flying round the Earth and to the moon and back fighting Nuclear Man. That's the best showing you will get off combat speed from a 30 year old movie.
And let me ask you something? Does catching a bullet not count as combat speed to you?? Does stopping nuclear missiles after they've already been shot also not count as combat speed to you??
And you're talking about debating and yet you've just repeated your argument without addressing any of my responses. So im not sure what kind of debating you're referring to.
Originally posted by janus77Anyway back on topic, I still don't see how any of the Marvel characters stands up against Superman.
See above. Apparantly Movie Supes has no combat speed 🙄
Originally posted by DARTH POWERPost the clip. Those reactions aren't beyond Thor's reactions in his movie imo.
I already did. He was flying round the Earth and to the moon and back fighting Nuclear Man. That's the best showing you will get off combat speed from a 30 year old movie.And let me ask you something? Does catching a bullet not count as combat speed to you?? Does stopping nuclear missiles after they've already been shot also not count as combat speed to you??
And you're talking about debating and yet you've just repeated your argument without addressing any of my responses. So im not sure what kind of debating you're referring to.
See above. Apparantly Movie Supes has no combat speed 🙄
Superman in character doesn't zip around yet you are arguing in a cbr type fashion. That isn't how we debate here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the clip. Those reactions aren't beyond Thor's reactions in his movie imo.Superman in character doesn't zip around yet you are arguing in a cbr type fashion. That isn't how we debate here.
Which clip?
For the record I always favour Thor over Supes in comics. But for the movie versions he's just in out of his depth (or what seems like it for now at least).
And Im not sure what you're point is about Thor's reactions when Thor was never shown to be able to move faster than a speeding bullet, or anything even close to that speed.