Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Excellent, but you only remembering part of it; those psionic breakers were weakening as the Phoenix Force was strengthening...The X-men started to notice that she was stronger than normal in the issues leading up to (and including) Proteus's 1st appearance; by the time of Proteus's 1st appearance she was far beyond her Marvel Girl power levels and was doing things with ease that was once a struggle for her (Classic Xmen page 33, page 14, panel 1...for example).
Do you remember that Proteus was strong enough to make himself invisible to Jeans power while she was in this "ever-increasingly-powerful" state? Again, this info can be found in Classic Xmen 33, page 9, panel 5.
Proteus was a beast as pertains his psychic defenses...
No way does Thanos beat him in this fashion with absolutely certainty; given what the Phoenix Force represents, I believe Proteus beating off a psychic attack from it means that the odds would be against Thanos defeating Proteus in this fashion...
Unless you want to try and argue that Thanos has greater psionic ability than a Phoenix undergoing the transformation into Dark Phoenix does...
But she was nowhere near her Dark Phoenix levels. Not even close. With the psionic circuit breakers in effect she couldn't even beat Magneto (she noticed something was cutting off her power during her fight with him, only later did she realize it was her self imposed mental blocks that shattered when she became Dark Phoenix).
During the Proteus arc Scott was amazed that she could lift five people telekinetically, I mean yeah that was stronger than her Marvel Girl abilities but not up to par with Magneto. After she became Dark Phoenix that's a whole other story.
Originally posted by lilshogun
First we do not know what Thanos is capable of because we do not know what type of Thanos are we using here. Once Thanos knows Proteus is allergic to metal, Thanos will exploit that to his advantage. If Magneto can put a hurt on Proteus by manipulating his electrons , I have no doubt Thanos can whip up some magic to affect him. Thanos win via Prep god ability.
Where in the OP does it say that prep is allowed?
I hope most people realize that Proteus can turn Thanos into a butterfly only by looking at him ?
He can turn Thanos' clothing in adamantium, and change Thanos's blasts in pretty flowers.
If Thanos pulls out a fancy deus ex machina weapon, he can turn it against him in half a second.
So many ways to kick his ass...
Not that I'm trying to get in the middle of this, or think Thanos wins for that matter, but wasn't it shown in Thanos Quest that Thanos is resistent to the effects of altered reality via the example of his crossing through various dimensional barriers/dimensions and his form was manipulated and distorted but he was able to revert back to normal by force of will, combined with the fact he has complete control of his atomic structure as an Eternal? If I'm recalling correctly, this match may be a bit closer than some think, but I can't decide on a clear victor.
Originally posted by Mistress-Death
But saying he can turn his blasts or him into something is pure speculation when you look at what Thanos is and what his power comes from
That's exactly what Proteus does. That's his thing, he does those kinds of things all the time.
He's above reality.
Or better put: Proteus decides what reality looks like.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Not that I'm trying to get in the middle of this, or think Thanos wins for that matter, but wasn't it shown in Thanos Quest that Thanos is resistent to the effects of altered reality via the example of his crossing through various dimensional barriers/dimensions and his form was manipulated and distorted but he was able to revert back to normal by force of will, combined with the fact he has complete control of his atomic structure as an Eternal? If I'm recalling correctly, this match may be a bit closer than some think, but I can't decide on a clear victor.
And it still messed him up...
That's not comparable with being attacked by a powerful reality warper like Proteus.
While it wasn't an attack, it had the exact same effect, and that effect was having his body manipulated via altered reality. IMO, the source and intent of the manipulation doesn't change the end result. It's like saying a boulder falling on you via a natural event is different than someone dropping a boulder on you with malicious intent, though the result is the same.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
While it wasn't an attack, it had the exact same effect, and that effect was having his body manipulated via altered reality. IMO, the source and intent of the manipulation doesn't change the end result. It's like saying a boulder falling on you via a natural event is different than someone dropping a boulder on you with malicious intent, though the result is the same.
But still, that wasn't an attack, and even if it was, you can't compare it with an attack from a very powerful reality warper such as Proteus.
Proteus can change Thanos' gloves in powerful adamantium dragons that will attack him. He can turn gravity upside down.
He can litteraly do anything he wants. That's no joke.
For argument's sake, I'm willing to accept that Thanos is immune to a certain degree, but he's not ignoring Proteus' attacks.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Eh, that is not speculation.That's exactly what Proteus does. That's his thing, he does those kinds of things all the time.
He's above reality.
Or better put: Proteus decides what reality looks like.
Pretty much. Any thought that crosses Proteus mind happens. Proteus can just sit on the side lines and consistently create powerful beings to fight Thanos until Thanos is near depleted.
This fight isn't fair.