Obama warns against pre-emptive strike on Israel

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17236549

He told The Atlantic magazine he was not bluffing by threatening US action if Iran built a weapon but that an early strike could win Iran sympathy. Iran says its nuclear programme is purely peaceful, but Israel and the US suspect it of developing weapons. There has been speculation that Israel might launch a pre-emptive strike. Correspondents say Washington is deeply alarmed by reports that Israel might take unilateral military action as early as April. In the interview, Mr Obama said he believed the Israeli government "recognizes that, as president of the United States, I don't bluff". "I also don't, as a matter of sound policy, go around advertising exactly what our intentions are. But I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say." Mr Obama re-iterated that "a military component" for dealing with Iran remained an option, as well as sanctions and diplomacy, but warned that a premature attack on Iran might be counterproductive. "At a time when there is not a lot of sympathy for Iran and its only real ally [Syria] is on the ropes, do we want a distraction in which suddenly Iran can portray itself as a victim?"

That's agreeable. I'd rather let Iran condemn itself first before we bomb the crap out of it.

There should be a nuclear-free Middle-East and that would include Israel's nuclear missiles at Dimona. Any pre-emptive attack by Israel on Iran would be illegal and classed as terrorism in my book

Heh, I must have been more tired than I thought last night.

*smh at thread title*

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Heh, I must have been more tired than I thought last night.

*smh at thread title*

Don't sweat it. After all people have always been warned against judging books solely for what is seen on their covers.

"At a time when there is not a lot of sympathy for Iran and its only real ally [Syria] is on the ropes, do we want a distraction in which suddenly Iran can portray itself as a victim?"

In other words they're looking for the excuse. When was the last time Iran started a war against someone? And yet they're concidering bombing it for having a peaceful nuclear program while other countries got sh!tload of nuclear bombs they're willing to use and noone gives a crap. Keeping that in mind gotta say - Iran IS the victim here...

Until their president starts talking about "wiping Israel off the map."

And him talking about that is a problem... why? They're constantly talking about bombing Iran. Dont even get me started on what they actually DO while in Iran's case its just empty treats. If we were to bomb countries every time the leaders said something threatening Israel wouldn't have made it into 50s. Neither would most other countries.

Originally posted by SamZED
"At a time when there is not a lot of sympathy for Iran and its only real ally [Syria] is on the ropes, do we want a distraction in which suddenly Iran can portray itself as a victim?"

In other words they're looking for the excuse. When was the last time Iran started a war against someone? And yet they're concidering bombing it for having a peaceful nuclear program while other countries got sh!tload of nuclear bombs they're willing to use and noone gives a crap. Keeping that in mind gotta say - Iran IS the victim here...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Until their president starts talking about "wiping Israel off the map."

thats what our president needs to start talking.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
exactly,Iran isnt a threat to us,Israel on the other hand is a threat to many nations including us.

WTF is wrong with Iran?!
No, not with Iran, but with rabid psychopathic government.

Their biggest enemy is NOT, I repeat is NOT Israel...it's Saudi Arabia. They better wake the hell up or there will be mushroom clouds left right and centre over there.

CBS’s “60 Minutes” Casts Its Eye on Stuxnet Worm

http://allthingsd.com/20120303/cbss-60-minutes-casts-its-eye-on-stuxnet-worm/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker

This worm, could start a war between Israel, and Iran.

Originally posted by SamZED
"At a time when there is not a lot of sympathy for Iran and its only real ally [Syria] is on the ropes, do we want a distraction in which suddenly Iran can portray itself as a victim?"

In other words they're looking for the excuse. When was the last time Iran started a war against someone? And yet they're concidering bombing it for having a peaceful nuclear program while other countries got sh!tload of nuclear bombs they're willing to use and noone gives a crap. Keeping that in mind gotta say - Iran IS the victim here...

Iran is like Brucie.

Do people troll Brucie? Yeah. But does he bring a lot of it on himself? Lol you tell me.

To act like it's as simple as "Western nations bullying Iran" or "Evil Iranians must be stopped before they commit a second Holocaust" is just silly.

The whole Iranian situation is probably the greatest current example of multi-level foreign policy stupidity.

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Originally posted by Omega Vision
If Iran is a victim, they're not doing anything to help it.

Iran is like Brucie.

Do people troll Brucie? Yeah. But does he bring a lot of it on himself? Lol you tell me.

To act like it's as simple as "Western nations bullying Iran" or "Evil Iranians must be stopped before they commit a second Holocaust" is just silly.

The whole Iranian situation is probably the greatest current example of multi-level foreign policy stupidity.

Originally posted by SamZED
Agreed. It's not black'n'white of course. Never is when it comes to int relations.

Don't you kind of hope someone bombs them now? biscuits

Lol kinda

Originally posted by SamZED
"At a time when there is not a lot of sympathy for Iran and its only real ally [Syria] is on the ropes, do we want a distraction in which suddenly Iran can portray itself as a victim?"

In other words they're looking for the excuse. When was the last time Iran started a war against someone? And yet they're concidering bombing it for having a peaceful nuclear program while other countries got sh!tload of nuclear bombs they're willing to use and noone gives a crap. Keeping that in mind gotta say - Iran IS the victim here...

1980 - 1988 Iran–Iraq War. It is easy to look up.

I think the line about Iran's nuclear program being "purely" peaceful is a load of crap.

I do think that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon, but not for the purpose of "wiping Israel off the map". I agree with Ron Paul on this, Iran is definitely getting a nuke because they feel threatened.

I don't think Israel needs American help if it actually comes to a nuclear conflict. There's no way that Iran can match Israel's nuclear arsenal (estimated at being between 50-300 warheads IIRC) within the foreseeable future.

If Iran attacks Israel with a nuke Israel will be the one to wipe Iran off the map, figuratively of course.