Thanos Vs Asgard

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you don't know who he's fighting, how can you back up your claim that Thanos wins?

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@Dream Stuff

Several people (myself included) have put together teams that would utterly own Thanos in this very thread...

Yeah, some might point to situations that occured in the comics and say that Thanos wins, but its important to note that comics are typically loaded with PIS in order to move the plot foward as well...

In a forum fight its "ready, set, go" with no PIS added; no way in hell does Thanos defeat every high ranking plus every fodder Asgardian combined...

Adding Gaea to the mix is extreme overkill...she is not even needed...but since she is there, Thanos has absolutely no prayer of winning this fight regardless of what TDF members attempt to argue otherwise.

Thanos is extremely overrated...

Surely you guys are not attempting to argue that Thanos is equal to or beyond an Elder God now!???

@Anyone asking what feats Gaea possesses to suggest that she's beat Thanos...

Some of you guys are taking this feats thing too far; she is an Elder God, based on status alone, she is well beyond him...and the fact is that many of the high end characters simply dont have enough appearances to rack up the feats you guys are requesting.

The abstracts Love and Hate are almost completely featless...yet they are universal level beings of great status and great implied power...who here (other than ignorant Thanos extremists) would argue that these two wouldnt utterly annihilate Thanos in a PIS'less forum fight?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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@Dream Stuff

Several people (myself included) have put together teams that would utterly own Thanos in this very thread...

Yeah, some might point to situations that occured in the comics and say that Thanos wins, but its important to note that comics are typically loaded with PIS in order to move the plot foward as well...

In a forum fight its "ready, set, go" with no PIS added; no way in hell does Thanos defeat every high ranking plus every fodder Asgardian combined...

Adding Gaea to the mix is extreme overkill...she is not even needed...but since she is there, Thanos has absolutely no prayer of winning this fight regardless of what TDF members attempt to argue otherwise.

Thanos is extremely overrated...

Surely you guys are not attempting to argue that Thanos is equal to or beyond an Elder God now!???

Actually you haven't... you have put together a list that would beat Thanos exluding Gaea

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually you haven't... you have put together a list that would beat Thanos exluding Gaea

Finally, you admit that Thanos would lose.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hel might not be in Asgard, but Hela is an Asgardian and has come to Asgards aid before...

As pertains Bor, it wouldnt be Bor solo against Thanos now would it?

Tell me, can Thanos beat Thor, Loki, Hela, The Midgard Sepent, Bor, The Warriors 3, Heimdall, Hermod, and the Enchantress combined?

Gaea isnt even needed here to spite stomp Thanos every single time...

The above team wouldnt beat Thanos?

What about the above team plus Gaea? That would be spite...wouldnt it?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Tell me, can Thanos beat Thor, Loki, Hela, The Midgard Sepent, Bor, The Warriors 3, Heimdall, Hermod, and the Enchantress combined?

First off (because I haven't read Thor since Fear Itself) who in that list is actually in Asgard right now? I know Hela isn't. I saw Thor is some kind of dimension for forgotten gods, or something, but I'll count him anyway. The Midgard Serpent is just laying around Asgard these days? Doubt it. When did Bor un-die again? I don't think it's sporting to just count every immortal who has ever been in a Thor comic as Asgardian, despite what the comics say.

Out of who's left, kid-Loki is weak with no prep, the Enchantress and Thor are the heaviest hitters (and Bor, if he is in fact alive). Since Thanos is generally bored by people with Herald-level power, this is no threat to him. Then we have Heimdall, who is significantly weaker than Thor. The Warriors 3 and Hermod are so irrelevant, I'm surprised they were brought up.

Thanos mows through that lineup, AOEs the thousands of normal Asgardians and wonders why anyone suggested Gaea didn't need to show up.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Some of you guys are taking this feats thing too far; she is an Elder God, based on status alone, she is well beyond him

Asgardians are called "gods," yet most of them can be mowed down by a human being with a fancy weapon. In comics, you can't afford to judge people by their implied powers or their supposed statuses. Even a lowly human like classic Molecule Man can be the most powerful being in the universe. Compared to feats, everything else is just bias and heresay.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The above team wouldnt beat Thanos?

What about the above team plus Gaea? That would be spite...wouldnt it?

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about... This list DOESN'T beat Thanos for a few reasons.....

First.... Hela ISN'T IN ASGARD.. so she is out...

Bor is DEAD... so he is out. Besides, what on earth makes you believe he solos Thanos.... lol...

M. Serpant.... ISN'T LAYING AROUND ASGARD WAITING TO HELP ASGARD if it gets invaded. In fact, it's NEVER helped Asgard when it's under threat.

Hemdall is a joke and would get dominated by Thanos.

So again, I say again, of all the poeple ACTUALLY there they don't beat Thanos.. PERIOD

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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@Dream Stuff

Several people (myself included) have put together teams that would utterly own Thanos in this very thread...

Agreed. Here are a few-

Originally posted by the Darkone
Tiwaz Bor's Father
Thor- Mystic Armor, Belt of Strength, Gauntlets too unleashed Hammers true power
Beta Ray Bill
Kurse- citizen of Asgard
Loki
Vidar
Balder
Enchantress
Hemidall
Warriors 3
Norn stones
Casket of Winters
Odin Spear
Odin Sword
etc too many options for Asgard which loaded with magical items!!

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hel might not be in Asgard, but Hela is an Asgardian and has come to Asgards aid before...

As pertains Bor, it wouldnt be Bor solo against Thanos now would it?

Tell me, can Thanos beat Thor, Loki, Hela, The Midgard Sepent, Bor, The Warriors 3, Heimdall, Hermod, and the Enchantress combined?

Originally posted by Horrificus
- Asgard has 3 x the mass, weight, density of real space. - Disadvantage Thanos
- Universal Church of Dorks - Thanos did not fight 9 billion people.
- Lowest Asgardian God > Average Universal Church of Dorks Member
- Thanos' main strength is technology. Magic is not his specialty. Everything in Asgard, every weapon, every soldier, etc, has a magic element.
- Loki, by himself, knowing he is going into battle against Thanos, would have a chance of winning. As long as he doesn't rush into a physical brawl. Which, he normally does not do.
- Then, of course, add all of the magic items named and not named in this thread.
- Then, of course, add all of the magic weapons named and not named in this thread.
- Then, of course, add all of the "Special Teams" defenders named and not named in this thread.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
The Valkyries, Brunhilde (who is supposed to be more powerful than Sif), the Warriors Three, Sif, Tyr, Heimdell with the Sword of Sorcery (who beat Thor when Thor was reduced to half strength), Beta Ray Bill, Thor, Thor Girl, Balder, Loki, Thailfi (who has some sort of insane super speed)....

Then the norn stones, the Odinsword, the Twilight sword, Thor's belt of strength, his magic gauntlets...

All this combined with thousands of Asgardians is definitely way too much for even Thanos.

Originally posted by Horrificus
1. Thor as "King"
2. Thor and Beta Ray Bill
3. Entire Population and Armies of Asgard
4. Force Arrow
5. Cosmic Bolt
6. All of the above, plus any noteworthy Asgardians who would return for this battle, Loki, Thor Girl, etc.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
A team of Thor, Loki, Hela, Enchantress, Baldur, Heimdall, Hermod, and Sif (with the Norn Stones) defeat Thanos a perfect 10/10...

I see a lot of people clamoring around to make sure certain Asgardian characters are NOT included for this reason and that reason.

That's called "fear". 😱

But, while you are trying to disqualify characters, to give Thanos a better chance, I kept these lists the same as they were made.

The fact is, unless Asgard can be chopped down to nothing, Thanos has no chance.

If Odin is just not involved in the battle then Thanos wins. But if Odin is no longer king of Asgard or dead or something of the sort, then Asgard wins since King Thor is greater than Thanos.

I like how the Thanos side is basically saying "Thanos wins, as long as you don't count these 30 Asgardians"

Colossus needs to define what he thinks counts for Asgard and then I can make a list supporting Asgard.

If it's any Asgard related shit minus on Odin/Destroyer, then this isn't even a discussion. Either way they wreck him something fierce, items in Asgard's possession currently are the Twilight Sword, the Norn Stones, the Casket of Ancient Winters (I think), Gaea and Thor are present etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Colossus needs to define what he thinks counts for Asgard and then I can make a list supporting Asgard.

If it's any Asgard related shit minus on Odin/Destroyer, then this isn't even a discussion. Either way they wreck him something fierce, items in Asgard's possession currently are the Twilight Sword, the Norn Stones, the Casket of Ancient Winters (I think), Gaea and Thor are present etc.

I messed around a bit and found a few things that could be added to the mix.

The problem is, the Thanos team is not going to change their opinion, which places Thanos at about the same level as Odin, ignoring past beatings, etc.

They are never going to see any combination of high-level Asgardian characters being able to beat Thanos. But, in a non-Thanos book, there are quite a few Asgardian combinations that would defeat him.

Isn't the Silver Surfer a resident of Asgard these days?

Basically, or at least he'll be a recurring supporting character in the Mighty Thor when he's not hanging out with the Defenders.

Anyway, like I asked a page or two ago, "Asgard" could mean a bunch of things here, which all have different outcomes against Thanos.

Classic Asgard proper (just the Realm Eternal, not Asgard and its adjoining realms and their denizens) would beat Thanos, imo. Classic Asgard as a whole would likely make things almost spiteish.

Current Asgard(ia) is more or less an amalgamation of all the nine realms under one single banner of the All-Mothers, which would still overcome Thanos, ultimately.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I like how the Thanos side is basically saying "Thanos wins, as long as you don't count these 30 Asgardians"

I'm glad you like it, because I'm never going to think it reasonable to count among Asgard the currently deceased or the long absent.

Originally posted by Stoic
Isn't the Silver Surfer a resident of Asgard these days?

I don't think I'd go that far, but the Asgard side can have him if they want, specifically because it make no difference. How many times do we have to see Surfer blast Thanos to absolutely no effect before people get it?

Other things:

Of all the characters you guys keep naming, how many would win a clear majority over Thor or Surfer? Take that very short list as a list of beings who have a chance at being relevant in this fight. No one herald-level or below is going to slow Thanos down, period. This is what I mean when I say that Asgard doesn't have many high-end characters.NUmbers don't matter when the power difference is that big; they'd be better off just getting out of their heavy-hitters' way.

For funsies, this is how useful an army is against Thanos: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7479/fight131fe5.jpg

I'll comment on the items later. Gotta do stuff.

Then by all mens, why don't you make a list of all the people currently in Asgard.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
I don't think I'd go that far, but the Asgard side can have him if they want, specifically because it make no difference. How many times do we have to see Surfer blast Thanos to absolutely no effect before people get it?

Other things:

Of all the characters you guys keep naming, how many would win a clear majority over Thor or Surfer? Take that very short list as a list of beings who have a chance at being relevant in this fight. No one herald-level or below is going to slow Thanos down, period. This is what I mean when I say that Asgard doesn't have many high-end characters.Numbers don't matter when the power difference is that big; they'd be better off just getting out of their heavy-hitters' way.

For funsies, this is how useful an army is against Thanos: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7479/fight131fe5.jpg

I'll comment on the items later. Gotta do stuff.

Okey dokey. Dude for the record I said that I didn't see any reason that Thanos would not take this without Odin at the helm fending Thanos off. I brought the Surfer to light, as I did not see anyone else mentioning him being a resident of Asgard.

Gaea as other posters have stated however, changes the entire game, and seeing as to how she was the amplification that helped to give Herc his "Super Herc" name during the Chaos Wars, it pretty much puts the final nails into the coffin of Thanos' possible reigning of Asgard, before anyone notices him as a problem. No ones questioning Thanos being a very powerful character, but there are simply beings out there that tower over him in terms of power.

Somebody actually included the M. Serpant on the list of people helping asgard LMAO.... The reaching here is bording on epic levels.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Somebody actually included the M. Serpant on the list of people helping asgard LMAO.... The reaching here is bording on epic levels.

Says the guy that doesn't even know who is on team Asgard.