Alan Scott (w/ Starheart) vs Odin-Force Thor

Started by Starscream M2 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, and such a feat isn't beyond the Odin Force.
how is it not? when did OF thor open pocket dimensions?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, and such a feat isn't beyond the Odin Force.

The point of the matter is that, on panel, Alan has done nothing to suggest him stomping Thor, let alone Thor with the Odin Force. I've already addressed the Starheart as opposed to the Odin Force in terms of scope and status, but Alan's never operated on the level he'd need to be to stomp OF Thor.

When has Odin force done such a feat? And I never said Alan would stomp. 😈

Originally posted by Starscream M
how is it not? when did OF thor open pocket dimensions?

Odin, or rather, the Odin Force in the guise of Odin created a pocket universe to show Thor just how limited his grasp was on the power he wielded and his ultimate potential.

OF Thor has never created pocket dimensions (it's certainly possible he could access them due to Mjolnir's teleportation), but the point is being able to create pocket dimensions/universes isn't a feat that implicitly means much in a combat scenario.

And all of it is moot as Alan Scott, powerful as he is, hasn't displayed enough to suggest he'd "stomp" OF Thor. Him fighting Mordru to various degrees of success - for a time - isn't something beyond Thor, OF Thor, and certainly not beyond Odin.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
When has Odin force done such a feat? And I never said Alan would stomp. 😈

See my earlier post.

It's entirely debatable Alan would win to begin with. I feel it could go either way, but you could make a strong case for Thor.

OF thor barely beat an old man and was chumped by rulk, so not sure why you hold OF thor in such high regards

Originally posted by Starscream M
OF thor barely beat an old man and was chumped by rulk, so not sure why you hold OF thor in such high regards

Context helps, but you're one of a few people that somehow think OF Thor wasn't clearly more impressive than Classic/Current Thor.

I agree, it could go either way. Alan is one tough cookie.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Context helps, but you're one of a few people that somehow think OF Thor wasn't clearly more impressive than Classic/Current Thor.
ummm....maybe because he didn't actually do anything impressive, combat wise at least.

I was also one of the few ppl in the past who always recognized that hulk is more powerful than thor in marvel's hierarchy and was ridiculed for such a view, until I was proven right in recent months

majority does not equal correct jake

Originally posted by Starscream M
ummm....maybe because he didn't actually do anything impressive, combat wise at least.

I was also one of the few ppl in the past who always recognized that hulk is more powerful than thor in marvel's hierarchy and was ridiculed for such a view, until I was proven right in recent months

majority does not equal correct jake

Let me know when Thor without the Odin Force can tank point blank shots from the Destroyer Armor - same blast that, y'know, killed him once. Or endure a single strike from a guy who would otherwise outright one shot kill him. Or be able to strike said being - who was about to destroy the planet - so hard he shatters Mjolnir. Or bring back Asgard and all its citizens.

Hulk's stronger, Thor's more powerful. That's how it's always been and likely always will be, ultimately. You're right that you're ridiculed, though.

Didn't say that it was. In this case, you don't know what you're talking about if you somehow think OF Thor was equal to or weaker than Thor without the Odin Force.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Hulk's stronger, Thor's more powerful.

no, you're wrong. hulk's also been shown the more powerful of the two because he uses his strength far better than thor uses his versatility.

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, you're wrong. hulk's also been shown the more powerful of the two because he uses his strength far better than thor uses his versatility.

No, I'm not wrong. It's why Marvel bills Hulk as the "strongest", and Thor as "the mightiest", at least according to their writers and editors.

Thor's versatility or lack there of in your opinion has no bearing on Thor's power output.