Hulks vs Juggernauts

Originally posted by Newjak
Fact every character gets these upgrades but for some reason they always stay in the same tier.

Surfer was supposed to have this great upgrade during annhilation now and Thor was still going blow for blow with him.

How many times have we've seen this person go oh I a million times stronger now and the same people as before give him a run for his money.

The fact people out there have just as good of feats as the WBH feat.

I've named a couple, Thor - Midgard Serpent, Beta Ray Bill - Planet Busting, Silver Surfer - Casual Palnet Busting/Black Hole Creation.

I can name more

Superman - Maggedon, Hercules - Holding the Heavens.

So your only real foundation for saying WBH would be above FP Kuurth, who imo is equal to > then 8th Juggernaut, is that one feat is so amazing it obviously shows him being so much stronger than before yet I'm sure if you look through all of Savage Hulk's feat you'll find something equal or greater than it, and just because he supposedly has this upgrade which never really means jack in comics unless it is a significant amp which judging by feats it wasn't.

So I hate to tell you this Hulk is Hulk. Yeah WBH is the newest fad but feat wise it's not that great, impressive ..hell yes it was but nothing all the other characters I've listed couldn't do, and I don't think any of them would be able to scratch FP Kuurth based solely on the fact at the bare minimum he was classic juggs without any of his classic weaknesses. That alone makes this a spite. WBH isn't denting him, and he now has an Asgardian Hammer for firepower so I don't think putting him down will be that hard either since they are comparable in strength and always have been.

This post is just outright terrible. Savage Hulk have fts that match these and he is a pale comparison of what WBH is. When you learn that Savage Hulk is stronger than Thor, who is weaker than WWH, who is weaker than WBH...things would be a lot better for you. You would have to discredit all of Thor fights against a far weaker Hulk to hold an argument on Thor even being a fraction of what WBH is physically. Then you would also have to exclude his other fights with people similar to Savage Hulk. You throwing all of these hyperbole fts for Thor doesn't change anything. Thor is strong, no one is saying he isn't but he is Hercules strong, Bill strong, Rulk strong...not WBH. You throwing out these frs doesn't change the fact that WBH aftershock from a punch laid waste to one guy that overpowered Thor and another guy that matched Savage Hulk who has overpowered Thor.

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh yeah cause your descriptions of said arguments were reasoned in that what did you call them retarded.

Anyways Thor's power output becomes significant because Juggernaut ahs already managed to take the brunt of Thor's godblast and other attacks and have been able tp push against. That means whatever Thor's output is becomes a direct comparison to the type of pushing strength Classic Juggs could do. Of course you wouldn't think about that would you.

So once again Cain's ability to push through and agaisnt Thor's power output becomes a direct test of his strength. That's actually a very logical statement no matter how much you want to claim it isn't.

But keep pretending your a logical genius.

Actually you can piss off.

facepalm. Cains ability to push through Thors energy attack is a display of his strength....lol thats the best you can do? Aside the fact that even bringing up such an esoteric means to determine strength is the height of straw grasping, you are claiming it is a test of strength despite the fact that we know that Cain has a seperate power from strength that is concerned with u know unstoppability which would thus be responsible for his ability to push through anything. You clearly dont think things through before hitting reply. Atrocious. Simply Atrocious.

Originally posted by Magnon
Juggernauts win.

Two of the Juggernauts only need to walk towards each other while the third one places a Hulk in between the first two just when they are about to collide. SPLAT. Rinse, repeat, until there are no more Hulks left. The Juggernauts will be using their unstoppable momentum to achieve the aforementioned steps.

Two different Hulks have already stopped the Juggernaut forward momentum. Not going to work here.

Originally posted by Naija boy
^facepalm. Cains ability to push through Thors energy attack is a display of his strength....lol thats the best you can do? Aside the fact that even bringing up such an esoteric means to determine strength is the height of straw grasping. You are claiming it is a test of strength despite the fact that we know that Cain has a seperate power from strength that is concerned with u know unstoppability which would thus be responsible for his ability to push through anything. You clearly dont think things through before hitting reply.

Of course there is the direct contest between WWH and Juugernaut if you want. It shows him being to match Hulk's strength because of it in essence his unstoppability does become his strength.

Like I said you can piss/bugger/f*ck off cause you don't have anything really intelligent to say or you just aren't smart enough to follow along.

Originally posted by carver9
Two different Hulks have already stopped the Juggernaut forward momentum. Not going to work here.

And WWH never stopped it you can clearly see him getting pushed back in the scans. So you can go like NJ and stop being stupid carver and thinking you have the logical win here. Cause ya don't.

Originally posted by Naija boy
facepalm. Cains ability to push through Thors energy attack is a display of his strength....lol thats the best you can do? Aside the fact that even bringing up such an esoteric means to determine strength is the height of straw grasping, you are claiming it is a test of strength despite the fact that we know that Cain has a seperate power from strength that is concerned with u know unstoppability which would thus be responsible for his ability to push through anything. You clearly dont think things through before hitting reply. Atrocious. Simply Atrocious.

😂

Originally posted by Newjak
What War Hulk who had Celestial technology?

And WWH never stopped it you can clearly see him getting pushed back in the scans. So you can go like NJ and stop being stupid carver and thinking you have the logical win here. Cause ya don't.

Show me him being pushed back.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me him being pushed back.

Indicating what carver, he got pushed backwards. I'll say it again for you.

His...foot..was...shown..pushed...backwards.

You think you can get it this time.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yawn didn't I say pushing power explicitly. You need to learn to read brah.

Of course there is the direct contest between WWH and Juugernaut if you want. It shows him being to match Hulk's strength because of it in essence his unstoppability does become his strength.

Like I said you can piss/bugger/f*ck off cause you don't have anything really intelligent to say or you just aren't smart enough to follow along.

Are you a toddler?His Pushing power comes from his unstoppability genius. Adding power as you adroitly did means diddly squat. You are merely creating a false distinction in another useless atempt to save face. lol keep talking about intelligence if it makes you feel smarter. Ill even keep calling you genius if it helps. I am a nice guy afterall 🙂

Keep it up Einstein.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't have the scan but if you look at it closely, you better pay real close attention cause I know you have trouble grasping details and understanding things, you see where Hulk's foot has moved backwards where Cain's foot has moved forwards. There's a little bit of moved Earth in front of Hulk's foot.

Indicating what carver, he got pushed backwards. I'll say it again for you.

His...foot..was...shown..pushed...backwards.

You think you can get it this time.

Which proves my case. Jugs push WWH back some inches, then WWH stops him directly in his spot. Jugs couldn't push him back which means Juggernaut forward momentum was halted. In the beginning, yes, Juggernaut pushed him an inch, after that, he could not budge WWH...the ground was giving out because of this.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Are you a toddler?His Pushing power[I/] comes from his [i][unstoppability genius. Adding power as you adroitly did means diddly squat. You are merely creating a false distinction in another useless atempt to save face. lol keep talking about intelligence if it makes you feel smarter. Ill even keep calling you genius if it helps. I am a nice guy afterall 🙂

Keep it up Einstein.

You have shown me the light Naija. Wow you're so smart.

Not really that is actually pretty stupid considering it pretty much didn't change my stance at all. He still is able to push a lot, who cares where it comes from. He can still do it which directly relates to weight being moved, how much force he can over come and get this brain dead Nb how much force he can apply to things. So it does mean a lot in this fight. Keep trying though I know you need to feel good about your self somehow.

Thanks for the compliment to.

Originally posted by carver9
Which proves my case. Jugs push WWH back some inches, then WWH stops him directly in his spot. Jugs couldn't push him back which means Juggernaut forward momentum was halted. In the beginning, yes, Juggernaut pushed him an inch, after that, he could not budge WWH...the ground was giving out because of this.

Jeez Carver learn to read stories before you cite them and decide to make claims. I know you just like looking at the pictures but there are words.

lol Anyways. Team Hulk wins

Originally posted by Naija boy
lol anyways. Team Hulk wins.

All Kuurth would have to do is let Hulk slam into him destroying the world then Kuurth wins cause he can still fly but the Hulk's are screwed floating around in space.

Originally posted by Newjak
What are you talking about??? WWH Hulk didn't stop it he simply diverted it enough that he wasn't taking the full brunt of it anymore. Cain was still moving forward just in a slight different direction, and Hulk still couldn't overcome it comepletely which is why he side stepped cause he knew he couldn't stop Cain one on one for sure.

Jeez Carver learn to read stories before you cite them and decide to make claims. I know you just like looking at the pictures but there are words.

I'm not seeing WWH being pushed back.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not seeing WWH being pushed back.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg

I favor the hulks in this fight but the reality is that both teams are capable of space punching the other for a bfr.

Lulz @ this thread.

Hulks lose.

Originally posted by Uriel005
I favor the hulks in this fight but the reality is that both teams are capable of space punching the other for a bfr.