Originally posted by Nephthysthat proves... very little.
While it isn't perfect evidence.... Orochimaru handed 4-tails Naruto his ass while Jiraiya got seriously injured by 4-tails.
For one, 4-tailed Naruto hit Oro multiple times (probably just as hard as he did Jiraiya), but failed to do damage 'cause Oro has those technique where he can puke himself.
Another thing is that Jiraiya wasn't actually trying to fight Naruto.
I'm inclined to go with Jiraiya due to how well he did against Pein. not certain though.
Originally posted by dadudemonI agree.
I would say that Oro was getting his *ss thoroughly kicked by Naruto, actually. Jiraiya on the other hand had a grenade go off in his hands: he wasn't aware of how bad it would get. That's not the same thing.If Jiraiya knew what he was getting into, he would have probably started in Sage Mode.
How anyone could watch that fight and say "Oro handed four tails Naruto his ass" I can't know.
Orochimaru's attacks were utterly impotent against Naruto, and Naruto dominated the entire fight.
Jiraiya presumably was also not trying to, you know, kill Naruto, which Orochimaru would have no qualms with.
I am going with Jiraiya.
Originally posted by dadudemonindeed.
I would say that Oro was getting his *ss thoroughly kicked by Naruto, actually. Jiraiya on the other hand had a grenade go off in his hands: he wasn't aware of how bad it would get. That's not the same thing.If Jiraiya knew what he was getting into, he would have probably started in Sage Mode.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I agree.How anyone could watch that fight and say "Oro handed four tails Naruto his ass" I can't know.
Orochimaru's attacks were utterly impotent against Naruto, and Naruto dominated the entire fight.
Jiraiya presumably was also not trying to, you know, kill Naruto, which Orochimaru would have no qualms with.
I am going with Jiraiya.
While Orochimaru's body was just starting to reject him and he was clearly toying with Kyuubi until the latter used its Bijuudama.
Though yes, Oro did not hand the 4-Tailed Kyuubi his ass. Far from it.
Originally posted by ichigo12
Well but I want to hear other peoples opinions because they were rivals and we never saw a fight between them.
Orochimaru has beaten Jiraiya in the past. It was a long time ago though.
IMO, thanks to Sage Mode, Jiraiya barely bests Orochimaru.