Jiraiya vs Orochimaru

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Originally posted by ichigo12
Jiraiya knows Oro's abilities so he would evade them.

Under someone else's view of something that specific it wouldn't happen. What they can and can't doesn't mean they would.

Well, Jiraiya was a friend of Orochimaru in childhood and when he departed Jiraiya said that he still was gaining information about him so I think he knows his abilities.

Jiraiya can just put them in a genjutsu like he did the pains. They are not going to be fighting at full potential since they wouldn't really want to win. From the ninjutsu I've seen from both Oro and jiraiya, I would give Jiraiya the edge. His toad stomach jutsu even had Itachi, and Kisame wetting themselves.

But Oro is hard to get trapped (except by Itachi and his great abilities in genjustu).

True, but Jiraiya has the frog genjutsu that was capable of trapping two of the pains. I wouldn't see why he wouldn't use it against Oro.

Remeber that Oro knows mostly all of the justus of the ninja world, he must know about that genjustu and the ways to evade it.

Originally posted by ichigo12
Remeber that Oro knows mostly all of the justus of the ninja world, he must know about that genjustu and the ways to evade it.

He doesn't necessarily have to know that one. he never made a contract with the toads so he could have never come across it. Just because you know of a jutsu doesn't mean you can automatically have a defense for it. I know that Floyd Mayweather uses boxing techniques but that doesn't mean I can defend all of his punches. lol

So what is the point of learning all justus without learning how to defend against it? That is just stupid and I think Oro is not stupid.

Just because you have a defense against something doesn't mean you are invulnerable to ninjutsu. Kakashi knows over a thousand jutsus supposedly and yet he is not invulnerable. He was still tricked by jutsus he knew about.

Because he fighted with very skilled ninjas.

They don't get more skilled than Jiraiya. Who has Kakashi fought that was stronger than Jiraiya? Hell, even Itachi and Kisame didn't want to stick around to fight Jiraiya but Itachi pwned Kakashi. Pain admitted that had Jiraiya known about the paths, he would have defeated him.

But Kakashi would not want to fight Jiraiya and I dont see a point why, Jiraiya doesnt count.

That's not the point I was trying to make with Kakashi is that just because you have knowledge of lots of jutsus does not mean you are incapable of being hit by them. Then you made the point that the reason why kakashi was hit by jutsus is because he fought highly skilled ninjas. Thus i countered with the fact Jiraiya is one of the most skilled ninjas in the series and thus by your own logic he must be able to hit people with jutsus they have knowledge simply based on his skills. The thinkg is it just seems that Jiraiya is more well rounded than Oro. He has sage mode that Oro can't use. He has more summons since he can summon several toads.

Oro too can summon a SHIT LOAD of snakes xD

Jiyaya wtf-pwns this sucker even if Oro had Edo Tensei to help him. Frankly, he's just weak.

Even if i defended Oro, I go to Jirayia.