Originally posted by Horrificus
You would have to show why DS can put Mangog down, when the best anybody has ever done, (combat-wise) is bfr him while he was momentarily stunned, from a God-Blast down his throat.Out of the 2 of them, DS has many more combat defeats than Mangog.
Mangog has top seat here.
Originally posted by abhilegendWho has defeated Darkseid?
Darkseid oneshotted Mon-el in coma. Who has defeated him in combat or even stunned him?
Seriously? Are you asking that because you really don't know, or because I have to be the one to make the list?
Frankly, what DS did to Mon-el, is what he should be doing to everybody in the DC. Unfortunately, they don't always write him that way, and yeah, it kind of sucks.
But, we have to deal with what has or has not happened in the books.
In the books, DS has a much worse record than Mangog.
And Mangog, going back decades, has one of the best records in comics.
People can take guesses and make assumptions against him, but the plain truth is, the character has never been beaten in combat.
Out of God knows how many fights with Thor, (several of them ending with an unconscious Thor), Mangog was finally "stunned" by a God Blast down his throat, and immediately bfr'd off a cliff.
And THAT is his only combat loss.
You can't say the same for DS. That is just the way it is.
On top of it all, with what DS is and what is inside of him, he would also feed Mangog all the power he needed.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Who has defeated Darkseid?Seriously? Are you asking that because you really don't know, or because I have to be the one to make the list?
Frankly, what DS did to Mon-el, is what he should be doing to everybody in the DC. Unfortunately, they don't always write him that way, and yeah, it kind of sucks.
But, we have to deal with what has or has not happened in the books.
In the books, DS has a much worse record than Mangog.
And Mangog, going back decades, has one of the best records in comics.
People can take guesses and make assumptions against him, but the plain truth is, the character has never been beaten in combat.
Out of God knows how many fights with Thor, (several of them ending with an unconscious Thor), Mangog was finally "stunned" by a God Blast down his throat, and immediately bfr'd off a cliff.
And THAT is his only combat loss.
You can't say the same for DS. That is just the way it is.
On top of it all, with what DS is and what is inside of him, he would also feed Mangog all the power he needed.
Who did PC Darkseid lose to?
And btw who did LT defeat? Actually he has a bad record. Still you wouldn't rank him higher then most Abstracts...
Originally posted by Horrificus
Who has defeated Darkseid?Seriously? Are you asking that because you really don't know, or because I have to be the one to make the list?
Frankly, what DS did to Mon-el, is what he should be doing to everybody in the DC. Unfortunately, they don't always write him that way, and yeah, it kind of sucks.
But, we have to deal with what has or has not happened in the books.
In the books, DS has a much worse record than Mangog.
And Mangog, going back decades, has one of the best records in comics.
People can take guesses and make assumptions against him, but the plain truth is, the character has never been beaten in combat.
Out of God knows how many fights with Thor, (several of them ending with an unconscious Thor), Mangog was finally "stunned" by a God Blast down his throat, and immediately bfr'd off a cliff.
And THAT is his only combat loss.
You can't say the same for DS. That is just the way it is.
On top of it all, with what DS is and what is inside of him, he would also feed Mangog all the power he needed.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Who has defeated Darkseid?Seriously? Are you asking that because you really don't know, or because I have to be the one to make the list?
Frankly, what DS did to Mon-el, is what he should be doing to everybody in the DC. Unfortunately, they don't always write him that way, and yeah, it kind of sucks.
But, we have to deal with what has or has not happened in the books.
In the books, DS has a much worse record than Mangog.
And Mangog, going back decades, has one of the best records in comics.
People can take guesses and make assumptions against him, but the plain truth is, the character has never been beaten in combat.
Out of God knows how many fights with Thor, (several of them ending with an unconscious Thor), Mangog was finally "stunned" by a God Blast down his throat, and immediately bfr'd off a cliff.
And THAT is his only combat loss.
You can't say the same for DS. That is just the way it is.
On top of it all, with what DS is and what is inside of him, he would also feed Mangog all the power he needed.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog31.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegendOK, ok. I will dig.
You didn't answer my question? Who has beaten PC darkseid not post-crisis darkseid? Do you think thor's godblast is more powerful than entire LOSH attacking at once?
Actually, I hope you are right. I always liked Darkseid. In the old days, he was "serious". I know he has losses, so I will find them and post them.
And- Godblast vs LOSH
I don't think you can compare Thor's one-shot to the entire LOSH. Of course it isn't as powerful. But, what is important is, how powerful it was and where it was placed.
I think that Thor's God-Blast down Mangog's throat is more devastating than anything LOSH did to DS.
Then, you have to remember that all it did was stun Mangog long enough to be kicked off a cliff, while Thor took off.
Originally posted by abhilegendRight. Anti-Force. Sorry.
It was anti-force not god blast and mangog was ktfohttp://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog31.jpg
But, that still didn't knock him out. Check this scan:
1. The top 2 left panels show Mangog stunned and moving.
2. Bottom right panel shows when he hit the ground after the fall and that's it.
3. Anti-Force down the throat did not knock him out. Getting smacked with the hammer and falling off a cliff isn't going to knock him out either. And, the showed nothing else after he hit the ground.
BFR.
But, even if you don't buy the BFR, that's ok. Either way, it is still his ONLY combat loss.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Right. Anti-Force. Sorry.But, that still didn't knock him out. Check this scan:
1. The top 2 left panels show Mangog stunned and moving.
2. Bottom right panel shows when he hit the ground after the fall and that's it.
3. Anti-Force down the throat did not knock him out. Getting smacked with the hammer and falling off a cliff isn't going to knock him out either. And, the showed nothing else after he hit the ground.
BFR.But, even if you don't buy the BFR, that's ok. Either way, it is still his ONLY combat loss.
