Thor vs Worldbreaker Hulk (Slugfest) · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by carver9
A superman at his best would be him using his brain...a Superman not holding back anything and that is trying to kill you is a monster. Diana even surviving that is a good showing to me. The reason I don't see anything wrong with is... Diana pulling off fts like that is consistent with the character.
Pr, my previous post was on point.

The post you replied to me with, contradicted your first.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, there is no proof whatsoever that the belt would amp his warrior strength x2. 😬
i've seen the quote that shows thor gets 10x the normal strength, but i've not seen the feats that would support this. it's always been my opinion that the discussion with him and red was a fair bit of hyperbole.

If his stength is 10X normal and you multiply his 10x normal strength by 2 why wouldnt it be 20X normal?

Thats because Thor has never been in Warrior Madness on panel. Not even Blood and Thunder.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
The post you replied to me with, contradicted your first.

I disagree. Doesn't matter though since we came to an agreement during the end.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by Stoic
Was it 100x their base or was it said to be 1000x their base stats? I thought that I read the latter. Laughable or not it was directly stated that they were walking around at that power level, and being beaten into the dirt by the Hulk that still was holding back. Was it considered canon? I don't see why not.

either is silly imo. i'm not denying it was canon. i'm saying it was hyperbole and not backed by any indicative feat. like narration that indicates thor is as fast as lightning. i find it odd how and why so many take those types of descriptors as actual fact.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by Damborgson
If his stength is 10X normal and you multiply his 10x normal strength by 2 why wouldnt it be 20X normal?
Thats because Thor has never been in Warrior Madness on panel. Not even Blood and Thunder.

i know it's never been shown. that makes the idea of it actually being a 'real' 10x amp even more dubious imo. i would think the gauntlets would simply amp his base strength, not an already amped strength. i've always thought the warrior madness would make the gauntlets redundant. for the thread, i suppose it doesn't matter. that's just the way i've always seen it.

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by leonidas
either is silly imo. i'm not denying it was canon. i'm saying it was hyperbole and not backed by any indicative feat. like narration that indicates thor is as fast as lightning. i find it odd how and why so many take those types of descriptors as actual fact.

Well if that was silly, imagine how silly the idea of a guy running faster than the speed of light must be? I mean when you factor in variables like friction. However this never seems to be questioned, it seems that only the Hulk's feats are scrutinized, while it's all just fiction, and in fiction all things written to be cannon are possible. You see what I mean?

Also this being as it is. WB Hulk is above Savage Hulk, and also above Thor at 20x if we consider that Savage Hulk has always been able to go round for round with a regular Thor.

Silent Master Senior Member

Yet if we go by feats, does WBH have any feats that are 20x better than Thor's best?

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet if we go by feats, does WBH have any feats that are 20x better than Thor's best?

Well yeah and that depends on how much of the Dark Dimension was actually destroyed by a collision that did not directly physically touch anything. Nice try at the low ball.

Silent Master Senior Member

Asking to compare them by feats is low balling?

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by Stoic
Well if that was silly, imagine how silly the idea of a guy running faster than the speed of light must be? I mean when you factor in variables like friction. However this never seems to be questioned, it seems that only the Hulk's feats are scrutinized, while it's all just fiction, and in fiction all things written to be cannon are possible. You see what I mean?
Also this being as it is. WB Hulk is above Savage Hulk, and also above Thor at 20x if we consider that Savage Hulk has always been able to go round for round with a regular Thor.

not really the same thing at all tbh. someone moving at ftl speeds in comics is something that is consistent within the world of comics and it is backed up by evidence time and time again. someone zapping a hulk enemy and narration saying they are 100/1000x more powerful without any support whatsoever to make me believe it? that pushes the boundaries of my dispension of disbelief i'm afraid. even in the comic world there is internal logic and consistency. and things can certainly be silly.

and i brought up the idea of thor being as fast as lightning, so i'm hardly picking on hulk.....

Naija boy Senior Member

tbf, they did grow to be gigantic in size which does indicate there was quite a large amp..

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree. Doesn't matter though since we came to an agreement during the end.

So you agree that you were wrong in the first place? Okay.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Stoic
Well if that was silly, imagine how silly the idea of a guy running faster than the speed of light must be? I mean when you factor in variables like friction. However this never seems to be questioned, it seems that only the Hulk's feats are scrutinized, while it's all just fiction, and in fiction all things written to be cannon are possible. You see what I mean?
Also this being as it is. WB Hulk is above Savage Hulk, and also above Thor at 20x if we consider that Savage Hulk has always been able to go round for round with a regular Thor.

I don't know about that...Savage Hulk looks stronger. 😕

It was pretty much clear cut that Savage was physically stronger than Thor in this fight...more dominant. WWH is pretty much far above Savage Hulk and WBH is just another story. IMO, 10 Times increase for Thor isn't enough.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
So you agree that you were wrong in the first place? Okay.

Lol...you know me better than that.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you know me better than that.

Then you disagree. Okay.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet if we go by feats, does WBH have any feats that are 20x better than Thor's best?

What is Thors best?

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
Then you disagree. Okay.

My post was right though...all of my post. You still didn't post out what was wrong.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by carver9
My post was right though...all of my post. You still didn't post out what was wrong.

It wasn't, and I did.

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by Silent Master
Asking to compare them by feats is low balling?

Well just questioning the on panel feat places it within that air, also the fact that Thor has never been in Warrior Madness on panel makes your question irrelevant, as it has no foundation.

What we can concretely go off of though, it that it stated on panel that Wendigo, and Bi-Beast were 1000x more powerful than they were normally, due to mystical augmentation, and that the Hulk overpowered them even at that level, and tossed them out into space as if they were light weights. This is something that the Savage Hulk could never do to these guys at there base stats. This also makes for solid evidence when discussing Thor's non amped strength levels.

Thor and the Savage Hulk have gone at it time and again, and most of their battles were draws/stalemates. Now let me do the math here. If Thor, Savage Hulk, Wendigo, and Bi-Beast are relatively in the same class in terms of strength, while not being augmented by outside forces, it should be easy to figure out, that Wendigo, and Bi-Beast at 1000x their base would be above this class in terms of strength. it should also be easy to realize that if the Hulk was able to treat them like light weights in this condition, that he would also be above this class, actually it would be easy to say that he was far above this class. Now here's the kicker, on panel it states that what he did to the Bi-Beast, and Wendigo was him holding back.

To recap. Thor=Savage Hulk=Wendigo=Bi-Beast at base strength due to how well the Hulk has done against all of them on panel. This also means that WB Hulk who was 1000x greater than Savage Hulk would be greater than Thor at 20x.

carver9 Senior Member

Amped Bi Beast and Wendigo fought WWH.