Round 2: True Legion vs Addult Franklin Richards

Originally posted by Doon
He already IS Franklin's herald, like it or not. "This is as black and white as it gets!"

Quote: "Throughout all of space and time.. the devourer of worlds has had many heralds.. Franklin has had only one."

Hop off Franklin's bone for a few minutes and look at things outside the box. upnoneermm

Originally posted by "Id"
Your just coming around to it?

He couldn't possibly take on the Celestials by himself, so he planed ahead. Saved up his cash money, and rented out the fab Galacti, so they could stand a chance in beating them.

Sorry for not making that entirely clear.

Allow me to do a sligth rephrase: what need for a herald do Franklin have after defeating the Celestials in 604?

None as far as I can tell, which was why I wrote earlier, in regards to Boubou concerns, that Galactus being Franklins herald was a one time incident.

Galactus has heralds to find him planets to eat so he doesn't starve and die.
Franklin has a herald who if he were to die, can resurrect him.
Galactus has a master who can resurrect him if all goes wrong.

... Symbiotic relationship. They need each other it sounds like.

So you take 2 guys who can manipulate reality and are universal or multiuniversal powerful. Don;t they know that there are bigger badder guys that can manipulate reality as well. Marvel is kind of throwing alot people being oh godly powerful. I still don't get how does omnipotence come from being the spawn of an invisible girl and a stretchy guy? I need to brush up on my genetics.

Originally posted by lilshogun
So you take 2 guys who can manipulate reality and are universal or multiuniversal powerful. Don;t they know that there are bigger badder guys that can manipulate reality as well. Marvel is kind of throwing alot people being oh godly powerful. I still don't get how does omnipotence come from being the spawn of an invisible girl and a stretchy guy? I need to brush up on my genetics.

genetically speaking the one guy who got ripped off is hyperstorm, son of Franklin Richards and Rachel Summers.

By his parentage alone he should be way, way, way up there in the list of all time most powerful marvel characters.

Rachel Summers is utter fail. Mating with her, is a step backwards in the evolutionary latter.

Originally posted by "Id"
Rachel Summers is utter fail. Mating with her, is a step backwards in the evolutionary latter.

2 steps

If it was just one hyperstorm would have broken even with franklin

If you ask me, Franklin or any of the Omega Males would yield better results from Sersi.

Imagine the monstrosity of a Omega Level Mutant-Eternal?

Originally posted by Galan007
...Which doesn't change the fact that Frank resurrected Galactus, then Galactus resurrected Frank. They're even now. I doubt very highly we'll be seeing Frank dimension-hopping, with Galactus tagging along as his pesky sidekick. When Frank was fighting the mad Celestials, he needed a "herald"--he no longer has that need.

Hop off Franklin's bone for a few minutes and look at things outside the box. upnoneermm

Who cares about the resurrection aspect of it? I'm just saying that Galactus is his herald NOW based on what was stated in FF#604. Also, didn't Young Franklin help to resurrect Galactus before during the Abraxis saga? So in that sense, they're not even.

Yeah, I know they likely won't be tagging along together in the future. We actually might never see this particular version of Adult Franklin again when Hickman leaves. Then again, you never know. At some point, another writer might choose to make something more out of the relationship between Frank and The Big G.

Originally posted by rotiart
Galactus has heralds to find him planets to eat so he doesn't starve and die.
Franklin has a herald who if he were to die, can resurrect him.
Galactus has a master who can resurrect him if all goes wrong.

... Symbiotic relationship. They need each other it sounds like.

Interesting way of looking at it..

Originally posted by Doon
Who cares about the resurrection aspect of it? I'm just saying that Galactus is his herald NOW based on what was stated in FF#604.

That's where their relationship will end. Not a doubt in my mind.

Originally posted by lilshogun
So you take 2 guys who can manipulate reality and are universal or multiuniversal powerful. Don;t they know that there are bigger badder guys that can manipulate reality as well. Marvel is kind of throwing alot people being oh godly powerful. I still don't get how does omnipotence come from being the spawn of an invisible girl and a stretchy guy? I need to brush up on my genetics.

Not long ago, it was stated that Sue Richards is actually far more powerful than she appears. Apparently, she has a connection to Hyperspace and the Celestials. (This was revealed in FF#400) In addition, Reed Richards used Annihilus' cosmic control rod to help Sue successfully deliver Franklin in childbirth. Some have speculated that exposure to the CCR helped to make Franklin even more powerful. Again, though, it's all just speculation.

Originally posted by "Id"
Rachel Summers is utter fail. Mating with her, is a step backwards in the evolutionary latter.

Why do you say that?

Originally posted by Doon
Why do you say that?

Because she is. Anyone who kept up with the early/mid 90s Excalibur series knows this for a fact.

She should have been capable of stupendous displays of power even with the fraction of the Phoenix Force she had yet nothing even remotely herald level was displayed by her.

Point 1 : Mastermind, when he tricked her into thinking he was Franklin Richards and sharing the fraction of the PF she had inside her, expanded his mind with universal level cosmic awareness. She failed to ever do anything remotely that impressive with the power.

Point 2 : Necrom, with an even smaller slice of the PF (he couldn't even use it unless Rachel was manifesting her PF abilities) : hurled the molten core of a planet at Rachel (that must of weighed hundreds of millions of tons), hurled Moons at her, ignited a gas giant planet into a sun, and destroyed an entire solar system with no signs of slowing down till she surrendered her lifeforce (along with her portion of the PF) to him and he overloaded. Rachel NEVER, EVER used the PF to do even a quarter of what Necrom did.

There's more examples of utter fail by her but those two are the ones that stick out most.

Originally posted by Doon
Why do you say that?

Because she is phucking stupid.

Rachel had 3 high level feats and then shit all

Originally posted by "Id"
Rachel Summers is utter fail. Mating with her, is a step backwards in the evolutionary latter.

Originally posted by lilshogun
So you take 2 guys who can manipulate reality and are universal or multiuniversal powerful. Don;t they know that there are bigger badder guys that can manipulate reality as well. Marvel is kind of throwing alot people being oh godly powerful. I still don't get how does omnipotence come from being the spawn of an invisible girl and a stretchy guy? I need to brush up on my genetics.

"Marvel is kind of throwing alot people being oh godly powerful".

I know right...? it's almost like they're DC

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Originally posted by Tony Stark
"Marvel is kind of throwing alot people being oh godly powerful".

I know right...? it's almost like they're DC

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They've been building up Franklin for a long time. So he is no surprise.

But Wanda, The Marquis, and Legion....yeah completely from the left field.