Round 2: True Legion vs Addult Franklin Richards

Originally posted by zopzop
Because she is. Anyone who kept up with the early/mid 90s Excalibur series knows this for a fact.

She should have been capable of stupendous displays of power even with the fraction of the Phoenix Force she had yet nothing even remotely herald level was displayed by her.

Point 1 : Mastermind, when he tricked her into thinking he was Franklin Richards and sharing the fraction of the PF she had inside her, expanded his mind with universal level cosmic awareness. She failed to ever do anything remotely that impressive with the power.

Point 2 : Necrom, with an even smaller slice of the PF (he couldn't even use it unless Rachel was manifesting her PF abilities) : hurled the molten core of a planet at Rachel (that must of weighed hundreds of millions of tons), hurled Moons at her, ignited a gas giant planet into a sun, and destroyed an entire solar system with no signs of slowing down till she surrendered her lifeforce (along with her portion of the PF) to him and he overloaded. Rachel NEVER, EVER used the PF to do even a quarter of what Necrom did.

There's more examples of utter fail by her but those two are the ones that stick out most.

I'm curious to see if Hope Summers manages any better when she's imbued with the PF. Should be interesting.

There was actually a little Easter Egg revealed in Hickman's SHIELD #4 suggesting that Adult Franklin and Hope Summers may cross paths or hook up at some point in the future.

Originally posted by "Id"
Because she is phucking stupid.

lol

Originally posted by "Id"
They've been building up Franklin for a long time. So he is no surprise.

But Wanda, The Marquis, and Legion....yeah completely from the left field.

Indeed. Like this image, for example, goes all the way back to 1973.

They never put a very clear label on FR's powers back then though. I imagine the term 'reality warper' became popularized only recently. Not sure though..

And yeah, Wanda definitely came out of left field. Maybe that's why they revealed (in Children's Crusade) that her HOM abilities were the result of an external power source, i.e., "life force" magic. Oddly enough, she's supposedly set to take on the Phoenix during the AvX event in an issue written by Jon Hickman himself.

So if the Life Force turns out to be the Phoenix Force....oh my dear Odin

Galaticstorm is going to have a field day with Mr. Master.

Originally posted by Doon
And yeah, Wanda definitely came out of left field. Maybe that's why they revealed (in Children's Crusade) that her HOM abilities were the result of an external power source, i.e., "life force" magic. Oddly enough, she's supposedly set to take on the Phoenix during the AvX event in an issue written by Jon Hickman himself.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Am now very interested to see this event through

🙂

Any updates on Young/Adult Richards since Hickmans run?

Legion vs Charles Xavier (Fiend)

For those who don't know who Fiend is.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Charles_Xavier_%28Legion_Personality%29_%28Earth-616%29

Fiend was already a formidable Telepath/Precognition. He is able to for see the entire 616 timeline, down to individual ends. As a telepath, he bested the Red Skull with Xaviers Brain. When he merged with Blindfolds brother (Luca Aldine). With Luca powers, he gains an abstract like form, and latches itself to the Psychophere. The Psychophere acts as the idea of space, that connects all human minds together, amping him to cosmic levels.

http://imgur.com/5SavK9m
http://imgur.com/Sz1DQLo
http://imgur.com/aVrHibF
http://imgur.com/IPKT4TG
http://imgur.com/OZVwRGL
http://imgur.com/P2pjHq9
http://imgur.com/qFMEn31

oh also, to point it out, Franklin never died during the 604 arc (Hickman confirms this during the whole formspring q & a session)

Franklin probably.

HOM Wanda >= MJJ >= Franklin >= Hyperstorm = Legion >= Jamie Braddock > MOD

Originally posted by "Id"
Any updates on Young/Adult Richards since Hickmans run?

Adult Frank recently easily physically broke apart a reinforced vibranium walt. Hickman's Avengers NOW run.

Apart from these small scale feats, not much else.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Am now very interested to see this event through

Round 2: Legion vs Charles Xavier (Fiend)
Regaining his confidence, Legion breaks Fiend physical form.
http://i.imgur.com/UP8l8Ui.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1U4W1va.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LTKSK21.jpg

Chases Fiend into astral realm.
http://i.imgur.com/dbyYoTP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HzJs9sh.jpg

And Merges with Fiend. He is lossing control (again), but now he will be at 100%. We have not seen him in this state, since True Legion emerged.
http://i.imgur.com/fZCoNyy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hGttCA9.jpg

The X-Man and entire mutant population are no match for Legion who has become the World Worm. Their Astral/Souls are being plucked, and absorbed absorbed.

The Avengers are no match. Seemingly swatted away like pests.

Nuclear Armament, does absolutely nothing. Judging by the explosions, each one is big enough to take out small nations.

And he stops time across the globe.

franklin in a stomp is this really even close?

^ Yes it is. "True" Legion has reality warping just as well.

He erased the elder gods from existence in New Mutants v3 #21:

http://i.imgur.com/3FvSrIy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TsDf9lJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5RrZNjj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/agEaZ2R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yL80daZ.jpg

Another example of confirmation (from a later on issue of Uncanny X-Men #540), that this Legion is a reality warper:

http://i.imgur.com/iSJMjnc.jpg?1

^ That's an indirect reference to "True Legion", is what i can tell you (you'll have to understand the original event to understand the scan for yourself).

He could also destroy the universe:

http://i.imgur.com/NjJ9b6F.jpg?1

Although, the elder gods aren't that powerful but point is, he can warp reality and destroy the whole universe.

I can post more (and for other legion personalities) feats (although pretty much all his major feats are very recent; initially he didn't have reality-warping powers, he started with 3 relatively minor powers and progressed till recently he acquired reality warping abilities), but that's the one the OP specified, so id stick with that.

On a side note, we have X-Men Legacy v2 #14 for example, depicting Legion's various reality warping personalities:

http://i.imgur.com/9C7lSaB.jpg

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Adult Franklin is above individual celestials (he can't take on 3 celestials simultaneously) but still below the Abstracts, and on par with Galactus.

So it's a fair fight, imo.

Frunkloon wins.

We learn that the Weaver, is another personality of his with the capacity to shape realities. Her merges with the Weaver his final personality. And as so, he undoes the damage he brought upon the world.

David reflects on his past actions, and consequences. Looking at 616 universe, and its entire divergent timelines. He decides to destroy it, and recreate it with him not longer in it, given that reality rejects a Legion where he rules he (where he is in control).

A complete Legion, is not universal. But Multiversal in Power.

^IIRC, kid Franklin created a set of countless cartoonish, 2-d realities in an issue of Daydreamers. Not to mention the adult version holding off the collapse of all timelines during Hickman's run in Fantastic Four#582.

Suffice to say, where Legion finally gets his multiversal feat, Frank's already been there and done that.👆

Originally posted by "Id"
The X-Man and entire mutant population are no match for Legion who has become the World Worm.