1. Juri KILLS SSFIV Seth (#15).
Heck, PRE SFIV, Seth gave Ryu trouble. Juri casually stomps, literally-stomps, a Seth that has already assimilated everyone's attacks and is just, out-right, stronger.
It is CONSTANTLY implied that she can go one on one with SFIV Vega. Even in the most recent crossover. This is Vega at 75%. One more 1/4 and she would be fighting a Vega who can use Psychokinetic blasts to turn cities into burning mushroom clouds. For her to be remotely close to 3/4 Vega puts her in normal Gouki's league, alone.
3. Are we now going to say that Gouki will EASILY thrash SFIV Vega? He used the SGS on Vega when he was at just 1/4 of his power. Obviously normal Gouki would have a fight on his hands if he engaged in combat with 3/4 Vega. So he would obviously have a fight on his hands if he engaged in combat with Juri, who so far, has never used the Feng Shui Engine to its maximum.
Okay, Juri is strong. Akuma still wins, he just wont instantly muder her. . .baring no SGS, o'course.
And even though I think A<B<C logic (power scallin) is okay for in-universe battles, the only edge I woulda gave Juri in speed, is gone.
Yup, so what she dodged a phuckin teleport punch, usin power scalin, Akuma has leik mach 100 reaction speed.
@DSZ
Are you implying that NORMAL Gouki can defeat 3 SFII Vegas, which implies that he can take on 3 sets of SFII Kens, Ryus, Chun Lis, Cammys, and Guiles all at once?
@No End
Are you scaling Gouki's power from Juri? In he isn't that much more powerful than Juri, if at all. Which is the point of my thread.
What? That's exactly how it works. That's why I always thought it was silly.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Are you scaling Gouki's power from Juri? In he isn't that much more powerful than Juri, if at all. Which is the point of my thread.
Are you serious? You clearly said Gouki as of SFIII. Are you gonna tell me that Akuma in SFIII can't beat IV Bison with ease? Nonsense.
Just to demonstrate how dumb this is, in SFIV, Ryu went from barely beatin Seth to SFIII where he is around Reg Akuma's level. The jumps in power between IV and III are massive.
Originally posted by No End N Site
What? That's exactly how it works. That's why I always thought it was silly.
No, generally a character will be assumed to be at least roughly on par with a weaker character in an attribute if the feats are not greater, if not better to an unspecified extent.
It doesn't go like "Well x can dodge a bullet and y is much stronger than x, so y must be mach 100!"
Y might be assumed to be able to also dodge a bullet, but an arbitrary number will not be given to his speed.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, generally a character will be assumed to be at least roughly on par with a weaker character in an attribute if the feats are not greater, if not better to an unspecified extent.It doesn't go like "Well x can dodge a bullet and y is much stronger than x, so y must be mach 100!"
Y might be assumed to be able to also dodge a bullet, but an arbitrary number will not be given to his speed.
I know that. That's why Akuma is leik mach 100 lol. Juri's feat requires she moves at leik 80,000 mph. Usin power scalin, despite not havin the feat, he should be, at least, as fast as her.
Originally posted by stargun
As far as feats are concerned even Alpha 2 Akuma could slaughter everyone in SF that isn't Ingrid.
But in actuality, current Akuma's gonna have quite a few tough battles and even with Shin thrown into the mix, there are still a few toss ups.
Hell, even Ryu will wreck an A2 Akuma. In theory, Akuma would have a tough fight with Twelve, in theory. And there is much to be implied when, besides oro and Ryu, Q is akuma's only rival in SFIII.