Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
Touche:"but do you need too?"
now answer why you need to carry while going to the grocery store.
I don't have a reason, given I don't personally and am happy to live in a nation that doesn't allow concealed carry.
Aside from any other personal questions you want my take on, how does this make Zimmerman a criminal?
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
He is the one who initiated the confrontation (following him) and brandished his firearm when getting his ass whipped and killed the young man. that's murder...murder is a crime.
according to Florida law, the person who starts the conflict is not necessarily relevant in a self-defense case.
Please watch the acquittal video, agree with the defense or not, this is the stuff we all need to be aware of before we can judge this case.
Originally posted by Oliver North
I don't have a reason, given I don't personally and am happy to live in a nation that doesn't allow concealed carry.Aside from any other personal questions you want my take on, how does this make Zimmerman a criminal?
like i told the other individual:
"He is the one who initiated the confrontation (following him) and brandished his firearm when getting his ass whipped and killed the young man. that's murder...murder is a crime."
but for the record I carry occasionally and permitted to do so, but not to go shopping.
I am not afraid to walk the street bare handed and i mind my business.
Originally posted by Oliver North
according to Florida law, the person who starts the conflict is not necessarily relevant in a self-defense case.Please watch the acquittal video, agree with the defense or not, this is the stuff we all need to be aware of before we can judge this case.
and with that said Sir, please see my comment on the Florida "stand your ground law"
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSONThat's not murder.
He is the one who initiated the confrontation (following him) and brandished his firearm when getting his ass whipped and killed the young man. that's murder...murder is a crime.
Following someone is not a crime.
The stand your ground law allows you to shoot someone if they're beating your ass.
Murder is the unlawful taking of someone's life. As Zimmerman's actions were in line with what the Stand Your Ground law allows, his killing of Martin was not unlawful.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
and with that said Sir, please see my comment on the Florida "stand your ground law"
You're arguing in circles.
"The stand your ground law is stupid."
True.
"Zimmerman committed murder."
How?
"Because he shot Martin."
Him shooting Martin was allowed by the SYG law.
"The Stand your Ground law is stupid."
ad nauseum.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh really?Let's recap:
You clearly have no clue why the trial is occurring. You clearly have no idea how the indictment process works. Instead of doing that typical internet pride thing, respond with a "my bad" or "shit, you're right" and then clarify.
you know what, you're right. i was incorrect on that matter.
Originally posted by jedi90
in that regard i was speaking about the training you receive to carry a concealed weapon.
you missed the fact Zimmerman and his wife attended all the requisite training and the defense witness (a police officer) who testified about the firearms safety he and Zimmerman discussed when they went to the range to learn proper shooting techniques?
also, which law does this violate?
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
and with that said Sir, please see my comment on the Florida "stand your ground law"
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
the evidence is a dead teen..... the boy just didn't die from a random shot.
so: "I don't like the Castle Doctrine, therefore he is guilty of a crime because I say so, even though there is no actual, real evidence"
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
That's not murder.Following someone is not a crime.
The stand your ground law allows you to shoot someone if they're beating your ass.
Murder is the unlawful taking of someone's life. As Zimmerman's actions were in line with what the Stand Your Ground law allows, his killing of Martin was not unlawful.
You're arguing in circles.
"The stand your ground law is stupid."
True.
"Zimmerman committed murder."
How?
"Because he shot Martin."
Him shooting Martin was allowed by the SYG law.
"The Stand your Ground law is stupid."
ad nauseum.
And you just proved my point...if Zimmerman left him alone (which means he started it) then Trayvon would have not been killed. If a man is kicking your ass...why...perhaps your big ass mouth provoked it? hmmmmm probly so.
Originally posted by Oliver North
so: "I don't like the Castle Doctrine, therefore he is guilty of a crime because I say so, even though there is no actual, real evidence"
I understand that you see nothing wrong with starting a fight and then shooting the man when he is whipping your ass....
Maybe running your mouth to people is the thing to do nowadays since you can legally kill them if they win a fight you started.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSONTalking shit and/or following someone isn't illegal, however.
And you just proved my point...if Zimmerman left him alone (which means he started it) then Trayvon would have not been killed. If a man is kicking your ass...why...perhaps your big ass mouth provoked it? hmmmmm probly so.
Thus, no crime was committed.
"The crime was shooting Marti-" Shooting Martin was lawful under the rules of Stand Your Ground.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSONThere is nothing legally wrong with talking shit to someone.
I understand that you see nothing wrong with starting a fight and then shooting the man when he is whipping your ass....Maybe running your mouth to people is the thing to do nowadays since you can legally kill them if they win a fight you started.
Why do you think there is? Can you point me to the law that states "thou shall not talk shit to people and follow them"?