Originally posted by Omega Vision
DDD probably sees black homeless people as harmless uncle toms, whereas white homeless guys are knife wielding hobos. 😛
I think it has to do with where you grew up. I spent my early childhood in the shittiest shitty part of a crappy town. All my classmates were black or native American and all my neighbors were black or native american. (Oklahoma)
It would be interesting to see if our more fundamental racial biases come from our early childhood experiences. I'd be willing to bet there is a correlation.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I think it has to do with where you grew up. I spent my early childhood in the shittiest shitty part of a crappy town. All my classmates were black or native American and all my neighbors were black or native american. (Oklahoma)It would be interesting to see if our more fundamental racial biases come from our early childhood experiences. I'd be willing to bet there is a correlation.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It would be interesting to see if our more fundamental racial biases come from our early childhood experiences. I'd be willing to bet there is a correlation.
afaik exposure to multicultural classrooms as a kid is causal in reducing racism.
I don't know the studies, but I think they have investigated beyond just the correlation.
Originally posted by Oliver North
afaik exposure to multicultural classrooms as a kid is causal in reducing racism.I don't know the studies, but I think they have investigated beyond just the correlation.
Anderson Cooper did a study on this recently and it shows that kids as young as 5 and 6 already have their own ideas about race and whatnot. Parents were stunned to hear what their kids said and thought about race.
I decided to talk to my 4 year old to let her know everybody is different and she can be friends with everybody no matter what they look like. She said "Yup, i know daddy". Hopefully she'll remain open minded and i'll be sure to keep telling her to accept others no matter how they look.
It's good that you are trying to raise your daughter to be open minded and accepting.
Sadly, especially in Western society, it is almost impossible for anyone to grow up without at least some subconscious racism (and if you are part of a oppressed group it may lead to internalized racism/sexism etc.). Be it because of the subtle behaviour of their parents, their teachers, other adults, their peers or the media, children are exposed to beliefs and actions, that, for example, suggest to them that black people are to be feared or not trusted, and while for many that will not lead to outright or overt racism, it will still guide their behaviour and in aggregate leads to the negative consequences, some of which can be seen in the Zimmermann/Martin case.
Yup. For instance. A jackass like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton will automatically scream racism first, for any situation, and sort out the facts later. Same goes with any of the jackasses on MSNBC. On the other end of the spectrum, the jackasses at Fox will scream "there is no racism". The truth lies somewhere in the middle, so more like "racism does exist on some levels but it is no longer as huge as people make it out to be and is often used as an excuse for people's shortcomings or other rationalizations".
Originally posted by Bardock42
It's good that you are trying to raise your daughter to be open minded and accepting.Sadly, especially in Western society, it is almost impossible for anyone to grow up without at least some subconscious racism (and if you are part of a oppressed group it may lead to internalized racism/sexism etc.). Be it because of the subtle behaviour of their parents, their teachers, other adults, their peers or the media, children are exposed to beliefs and actions, that, for example, suggest to them that black people are to be feared or not trusted, and while for many that will not lead to outright or overt racism, it will still guide their behaviour and in aggregate leads to the negative consequences, some of which can be seen in the Zimmermann/Martin case.
I agree with this. I'm Black/Puerto Rican and was raised by my Puerto Rican grandfather and his Caucasian second wife. I lived in an area where i encountered multiple races and had friends of many different backgrounds. I've dated girls of all sorts of ethnicity. Race has never really been a major issue for me and i hope it's similar for my kids as well.
But my wife's situation is a bit different. She's Black and her parents/grandparents have been thru some pretty messed up stuff. Naturally, growing up, she heard stories and saw the effects these things had on her family. Even tho she didn't encounter the events herself, they still effected the way she sees and thinks about certain things. Race can be a very sensitive topic with her. She's lightened up a lot over the years tho.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It would be interesting to see if our more fundamental racial biases come from our early childhood experiences. I'd be willing to bet there is a correlation.
There was an experiment (I'll try to find it) where children were told "Suzy likes greebles" (it wasn't greebles that's a psych injoke) and then asked if they thought Billy would like greebles too. Small children appeared to ignore race and gender on questions like that.
Originally posted by Raisen
My daughter has seemed to already embrace a few of the negative stereotypes about white people. I was shocked. she has friends of all ethnicities but she, in a round about way, said white people can't dance. it was funny, but made me think
There's a difference between stereotypes and flat out facts buddy 😛
Originally posted by juggerman
There's a difference between stereotypes and flat out facts buddy 😛
lol. pretty sure she got it from watching black comedy. her mother's side is black and all the cousins and everybody is always at grandma's house watching bet. I was in my car with her listening to oldies, trying to get her to like Motown. she mostly stays with her mom, and they are in an area that doesn't have a lot of black people. mostly Mexican people, and there is a lot of tension between many blacks and Mexicans in so. cal.
i'm trying to get her armor ready for the b.s. that I've seen other kids endure, so I was telling her that black people are very talented musically; had her listening to Gladys knight, stevie wonder, and tina turner. I told her tina could sing and be dancing like crazy at the same time. she turns to me and says, almost laughing, "what about white people? they can't dance"
😆
oh well.