Originally posted by Diesldude
so it's the void that got destroyed when they created the new universe?
yes, it's the void that got destroyed when 'creation' manifested or w/e.
CK was weakened so bad, he was forced to take a lowly "god" forum in the...Japanese pantheon?
just the earth's creation alone weakened CK
Originally posted by Diesldude
so it's the void that got destroyed when they created the new universe?
Chaos King wasn't destroyed but was only weakened.Everything about CK is based on Japanese Mythology.Only in Marvel's case, it was TOAA that sent him down the cosmic hierarchy instead of IN and Yo.Even if the Angels here do possess the power of creation, the best they can do is weaken CK since their not exactly TOAA themselves.And when I say weaken, I was talking about what went down in Chaos War😘-men were the dead X-men went to muir island to awaken the One Above All.
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Presence - Lucifer
it kinda does mean something.
TOAA (the "external forces"😉 created "God" for the DC continuity from seemingly nothing -- the void before creation, aka Mikaboshi. it's sort of confusing but this is what happens when writers want to portray god inside of fictional creations.
after absorbing most of the multiverse (I think they should have used megaverse so people won't get confused), he was able to regain his abstract form. in this form, he is a peer if not superior to the angels.
i really don't see how the angels can win unless a certain perspective is taken that discredits mikaboshi's character entirely. maybe since the op didn't say to the death, they could outsmart him just like the god squad did...but if the terms were different like say, no BFR, to the death? How are they going to put him down?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
it kinda does mean something.TOAA (the "external forces"😉 created "God" for the DC continuity from seemingly nothing -- the void before creation, aka Mikaboshi. it's sort of confusing but this is what happens when writers want to portray god inside of fictional creations.
after absorbing most of the multiverse (I think they should have used megaverse so people won't get confused), he was able to regain his abstract form. in this form, he is a peer if not superior to the angels.
i really don't see how the angels can win unless a certain perspective is taken that discredits mikaboshi's character entirely. maybe since the op didn't say to the death, they could outsmart him just like the god squad did...but if the terms were different like say, no BFR, to the death? How are they going to put him down?
I don't see how CK can take down Michael or Lucifer. Fortunately for Angel side, they have power AND brains.
How are they going to kill the end of ALL things? IF they do...that means everything goes on and on, which it doesn't because all things come to an end.
Where as, if the end of all things come...there is no more Michael or Lucifer.
Mikaboshi should be able to absorb them, make them part of his army, or outright kill them in battle in order to achieve his goal...as long as the terms are no BFR.
There are no other omniverses, there is only 1. Separate continuities, yes in the case of Marvel and DC.
In one of the Chaos War comics, it was stated on panel that Mikaboshi absorbed 98.(?)% of the multiverse (i think they should have said megaverse)
It doesn't say that he can effect other continuities...but if he was part of DC, or at least for this crossover battle, you can't take away Mikaboshi representing literally the end of all things. The end includes Angels such as Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer
don't see what?
CK is the void before creation. That means whatever was created to exist by any writer...he is the end of it all, and the void that came before it.
When the Angels face him, they are facing that same abstract force that nobody could mathematically find a solution for, so they BFR'd him to his own continuity (how I see it, anyway. it's effectively his own Marvel big enough for him to feel content in his "victory"😉
without BFR, I don't see how any of them are going to put him down. And to make matters worse, he has help. Another abstract being (Abraxas, representing "imbalance) and a super-strong demonic entity (Zom). Abraxas uses his powers of imbalance to disrupt the rules on the battlefield, making Zom able to fight with probably Michael while Abraxas fights Gabriel (or however you want to match them up)
This definitely isn't spite against Marvel from my perspective. Zom is still the weak link here.
I think the only people who can beat CK are LT, and TOAA. I say that because Super-God Herc summoned a "higher power" to restore what CK had done.
MU Cosmics couldn't do anything to CK, DC Cosmics probably couldn't either. Death is Death, anyway/where ever you look at it. Death couldn't stop CK, Death fled so the heroes could do what they had to do...if Death was gone, there definitely would be no stopping CK because you wouldn't be able to kill him. All abstracts have their significance, whether its Death, Galactus, Eternity, etc. They all come to an end if CK wins.
Can the Angels kill CK? I doubt it.
I may be reaching with this one, but CK beat the strongest Hell Lord in 616. I'd compare that to Lucifer who was pretty much banished in the same way, because they represent the same thing even though it's in different continuities and told differently (DC and Marvel both have their preferences when it comes to angelics. DC wants to give you "God" as the top dog, Marvel says it's LT and TOAA to MU is nothing more than a writer/artist)
With BFR, Angels can win probably 6/10.
Without BFR, it'd debatable that CK loses.
