Scathan The Approver Vs Cosmic Armor Superman

Started by Galan0075 pages

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
CA Superman, easy. Using the same logic as the second poster... the Mandrakk, CA Superman fought was more powerful then Spectre and Radiant together
Actually, that was the second (watered down) version of Mandrakk: Rox Ogama.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
DC's a bit jumbled. In The Next, it was said that Superman saved the Omniverse. In 52, Rip Hunter said DC had a Megaverse or Metaverse. Always forget.
Nah, Rip just commented that the previous DC multiverse would eventually evolve into a megaverse.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well Rip isn't omniscient, he just might not have known the full extent of it
Where time/space/reality are concerned, Rip's word is incontrovertible.

Originally posted by Galan007
Actually, that was the second (watered down) version of Mandrakk: Rox Ogama.

Nah, Rip just commented that previous DC continuity would eventually evolve into a megaverse.

Where time/space/reality is concerned, Rip's word is incontrovertible.


So who wins here galan?

CA Supes, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
CA Supes, imo.

Then its proved, my lord.pray

😆

Scathan did that one thing against a guy who barely did anything, but an outburst

CA Superman had a more prolonged battle against a guy who was eating the bleed, but still only contained in a couple pages.

One shot "hero" stops one shot "villian" vs the same thing on the other side.
Meh

Cellestial Muzzle ftw.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Scathan did that one thing against a guy who barely did anything, but an outburst

CA Superman had a more prolonged battle against a guy who was eating the bleed, but still only contained in a couple pages.

One shot "hero" stops one shot "villian" vs the same thing on the other side.
Meh

Which is why it's a perfect match. 😈

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Scathan did that one thing against a guy who barely did anything, but an outburst

CA Superman had a more prolonged battle against a guy who was eating the bleed, but still only contained in a couple pages.

One shot "hero" stops one shot "villian" vs the same thing on the other side.
Meh

But Protege didn't have to do anything, it was confirmed on panel by the Beyonder and everyone else at the court (with the exception of Scathan who just stood there silently):

The Handbook entry for the LT backs it up :

The party was over for the LT and all creation until Scathan stepped in.

To further cement the point, once Scathan subdued and muzzled a being that had surpassed the LT, the LT asked Scathan to remove the muzzle and restrain him while the LT passed judgement. To prove that the Protege still had all the power he had observed the LT needed to draw power from the Eye of Agamotto (an object that the Protege hadn't seen/duplicated yet) to pass judgement and imprison the Protege. So Scathan was restraining a being that was AT LEAST the equal to the LT in power.

LOL @ Protege summoning Mephisto. I'll post a funny post later, but Protege is pretty much all hype from what I see.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
LOL @ Protege summoning Mephisto. I'll post a funny post later, but Protege is pretty much all hype from what I see.

Prep, at least look at the scans? The Beyonder straight up stated : The fate of any and all realties now rests upon that boy's shoulders. The Living Tribunal CONFIRMED this.

Originally posted by zopzop
Prep, at least look at the scans? The Beyonder straight up stated : The fate of any and all realties now rests upon that boy's shoulders. The Living Tribunal CONFIRMED this.

So, Protege could have been equal to TOAA?? Anyway, here is the quote and I'm pretty much in agreement.

Protege claimed that he wasn't just equal to the Living Tribunal, but that he was much more powerful, that he was the One Above All. Nowhere did he actually do anything to support this claim, and when he saw that he was outnumbered by the Tribunal, Eternity and the Hawk God, he summoned Mephisto and Malevolence in an attempt to even the odds. (Which begs the question: what kind of idiot summons Mephisto in a fight against the Living Tribunal?)

Nowhere was it shown that the Tribunal or Eternity were intimidated or impressed by his power in any way, the LT called him a child and told him to end his display. The Hawk God knocked him back with a single blast, something that would never happen to the Living Tribunal. He made a lot of noise before getting trapped inside an energy-shield by Scathan. Nowhere did he do anything that the LT or Eternity could not easily do. And he was killed by the LT, which kind of stands at odds with his claim of being superior to the LT. The Tribunal passed judgement on him and he was consumed by the eternal hourglass.

Originally posted by zopzop
But Protege didn't have to do anything, it was confirmed on panel by the Beyonder and everyone else at the court (with the exception of Scathan who just stood there silently):

The Handbook entry for the LT backs it up :

The party was over for the LT and all creation until Scathan stepped in.

To further cement the point, once Scathan subdued and muzzled a being that had surpassed the LT, the LT asked Scathan to remove the muzzle and restrain him while the LT passed judgement. To prove that the Protege still had all the power he had observed the LT needed to draw power from the Eye of Agamotto (an object that the Protege hadn't seen/duplicated yet) to pass judgement and imprison the Protege. So Scathan was restraining a being that was AT LEAST the equal to the LT in power.

Didn't read

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, Protege could have been equal to TOAA??

No, didn't you read the scans? The Living Tribunal told him to his face, that "power beyond this level of existence is meaningless". At best he was greater than the LT but less than Scathan. \

And that quote means nothing, on panel info backed up by handbook entry > forum user's opinion.

Proof that quote means nothing :

The LT needed to draw extra power from an object that the Protege hadn't' duplicated yet to pass judgement and absorb the Protege.

Not when he was killed by LT. Story looks like crap, tbh.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not when he was killed by LT. Story looks like crap, tbh.

Look at my previous post. The LT needed to draw power from an object that Protege hadn't duplicated yet to pass judgement and absorb him. I even included a scan as proof.

And it don't matter if the story sucked, it's canon.

Which still doesn't make sense. LT must be weak sauce then.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Which still doesn't make sense. LT must be weak sauce then.

It doesn't have to make sense, it's a comic. The LT can be weaksauce and it still doesn't' change the fact that the Protege almost conquered Marvel reality in the 31st Century and was only stopped by Scathan.

Eh, agree to disagree.

Scathan ftw.