Scathan The Approver Vs Cosmic Armor Superman

Scathan is a Celestial from the 31st Century.

That was the only arc he appeared in, so his whole history, character make-up and feats,
are all based on that arc.

Whether or not Scathan was sent by TOAA is inconsequential.

Because we'll never know.

What we do know, is that if used in a VS Forum ...

... Scathan is > Protege

Protege > The LT + Eternity + Hawkgod + Beyonder + Mephisto/Malevolence + GOTG.

Scathan is referenced in two separate official Handbooks, (LT & Celestials)
as the saviour of reality in that scenario with Protege.

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One last thing:

Suggesting or actually quantifying Scathan as a single aspect of TOAA,
or any fragment of any size or order,
and then comparing it to an aspect of DC's supreme being,
is utterly ridiculous and based on pure unsupported, unprovable fantasy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Scathan is a Celestial from the 31st Century.

That was the only arc he appeared in, so his whole history, character make-up and feats,
are all based on that arc.

Whether or not Scathan was sent by TOAA is inconsequential.

Because we'll never know.

What we do know, is that if used in a VS Forum ...

... Scathan is > Protege

Protege > The LT + Eternity + Hawkgod + Beyonder + Mephisto/Malevolence + GOTG.

Scathan is referenced in two separate official Handbooks, (LT & Celestials)
as the saviour of reality in that scenario with Protege.

-----------------------------------------

One last thing:

Suggesting or actually quantifying Scathan as a single aspect of TOAA,
or any fragment of any size or order,
and then comparing it to an aspect of DC's supreme being,
is utterly ridiculous and based on pure unsupported, unprovable fantasy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Scathan is a Celestial from the 31st Century.

That was the only arc he appeared in, so his whole history, character make-up and feats,
are all based on that arc.

Whether or not Scathan was sent by TOAA is inconsequential.

Because we'll never know.

What we do know, is that if used in a VS Forum ...

... Scathan is > Protege

Protege > The LT + Eternity + Hawkgod + Beyonder + Mephisto/Malevolence + GOTG.

Scathan is referenced in two separate official Handbooks, (LT & Celestials)
as the saviour of reality in that scenario with Protege.

-----------------------------------------

One last thing:

Suggesting or actually quantifying Scathan as a single aspect of TOAA,
or any fragment of any size or order,
and then comparing it to an aspect of DC's supreme being,
is utterly ridiculous and based on pure unsupported, unprovable fantasy.

Celestial Muzzle ftw.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Scathan is a Celestial from the 31st Century.

That was the only arc he appeared in, so his whole history, character make-up and feats,
are all based on that arc.

Whether or not Scathan was sent by TOAA is inconsequential.

Because we'll never know.

What we do know, is that if used in a VS Forum ...

... Scathan is > Protege

Protege > The LT + Eternity + Hawkgod + Beyonder + Mephisto/Malevolence + GOTG.

Scathan is referenced in two separate official Handbooks, (LT & Celestials)
as the saviour of reality in that scenario with Protege.

-----------------------------------------

One last thing:

Suggesting or actually quantifying Scathan as a single aspect of TOAA,
or any fragment of any size or order,
and then comparing it to an aspect of DC's supreme being,
is utterly ridiculous and based on pure unsupported, unprovable fantasy.

But you and I both know that that feat is nothing compared to what She-Hulk can do 💃

Scatman ftw.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Why didn't Protege copy Scanthan's power? Scanthan was used as a judge probably by TOAA. Protege was already more powerful than Scanthan by displacing LT and could have destroyed him. But he didn't and couldn't because TOAA was using Scanthan to disprove. Protege couldn't copy TOAA's powers for the same reason he couldn't duplicate the powers of the eye of agamotto. He hadn't seen TOAA yet, TOAA had to defeat the protege without confrontation. Scanthan by himself is nothing compared to LT but in this arc was a tool used by TOAA to save Marvel's reality. This also explains LT's line " Power is meaningless beyond this level of existence". All the power the Protege obtained and he was defeated by a single aspect of TOAA. With that said, we know what Mandrake did to DC's version of the cosmic judge, 2 aspects of the presence, his wrath and his love and CA Superman was more powerful. This really is spite, CA Superman wins.

I don't think it's spite. Scathan can win a few.

Superman's story > the whole Protege arc

CA Superman

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Superman's story > the whole Protege arc

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon Superman's story > the whole Protege arc

that is a given.

Originally posted by Mr Master

One last thing:

Suggesting or actually quantifying Scathan as a single aspect of TOAA,
or any fragment of any size or order,
and then comparing it to an aspect of DC's supreme being,
is utterly ridiculous and based on pure unsupported, unprovable fantasy.

Basically you call my post a rediculous unsupported fantasy? Nice!!!! but I'll let this slide because i like reading your posts. I may not always agree with with them but I like reading them.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Scathan is a Celestial from the 31st Century.

That was the only arc he appeared in, so his whole history, character make-up and feats,
are all based on that arc.

Did did he defeat or destroy Protege? Right, I don't think so, all i saw was a stalemate until LT was able to aquire this artifact to absorb him,

Originally posted by Mr Master

Whether or not Scathan was sent by TOAA is inconsequential.
Because we'll never know.

As a result, you can't dismiss it, and if you consider that LT was/is the cosmic judge couldn't stop protege but alluded to power outside of this existence. Scantan is part of "existence", thus he was used for this purpose by something from outside. TOAA? who else is above LT?

Originally posted by Mr Master

What we do know, is that if used in a VS Forum ...

... Scathan is > Protege

I would love to see the forumla behind this proof. So Scantan is > then Protege just because KMC accepts it? I'll take the high road and not redicule you for this.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Protege > The LT + Eternity + Hawkgod + Beyonder + Mephisto/Malevolence + GOTG.

Never said otherwise.
but that's protege > the LT and fodder when compared to LT.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Scathan is referenced in two separate official Handbooks, (LT & Celestials)
as the saviour of reality in that scenario with Protege.

Again, just like Thanos in The End.
can you answer these 2 questions please?

1) Do you think the Protege could have copied TOAA?
2) And did Scanthan truely destroy Protege?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
that is a given.

[QUOTE=13898299]Originally posted by Diesldude [B]Basically you call my post a rediculous unsupported fantasy? Nice!!!! but I'll let this slide because i like reading your posts. I may not always agree with with them but I like reading them. Did did he defeat or destroy Protege? Right, I don't think so, all i saw was a stalemate until LT was able to aquire this artifact to absorb him, As a result, you can't dismiss it, and if you consider that LT was/is the cosmic judge couldn't stop protege but alluded to power outside of this existence. Scantan is part of "existence", thus he was used for this purpose by something from outside. TOAA? who else is above LT? I would love to see the forumla behind this proof. So Scantan is > then Protege just because KMC accepts it? I'll take the high road and not redicule you for this. Never said otherwise. but that's protege > the LT and fodder when compared to LT. Again, just like Thanos in The End. can

i dount protege could have. either way, it was a s hit story.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
[QUOTE=13898299]Originally posted by Diesldude [B]Basically you call my post a rediculous unsupported fantasy? Nice!!!! but I'll let this slide because i like reading your posts. I may not always agree with with them but I like reading them. Did did he defeat or destroy Protege? Right, I don't think so, all i saw was a stalemate until LT was able to aquire this artifact to absorb him, As a result, you can't dismiss it, and if you consider that LT was/is the cosmic judge couldn't stop protege but alluded to power outside of this existence. Scantan is part of "existence", thus he was used for this purpose by something from outside. TOAA? who else is above LT? I would love to see the forumla behind this proof. So Scantan is > then Protege just because KMC accepts it? I'll take the high road and not redicule you for this. Never said otherwise. but that's protege > the LT and fodder when compared to LT. Again, just like Thanos in The End. can

i dount protege could have. either way, it was a s hit story.

Originally posted by Prep-Man

i dount protege could have. either way, it was a s hit story.

Originally posted by CortSether

But you and I both know that that feat is nothing compared to what She-Hulk can do

Originally posted by Diesldude

Basically you call my post a rediculous unsupported fantasy?
Nice!!!! but I'll let this slide because i like reading your posts. I
may not always agree with with them but I like reading them.

That aside, I do appreciate the recognition.

Originally posted by Diesldude

Did did he defeat or destroy Protege?

Right, I don't think so,
all i saw was a stalemate until LT was able to aquire this artifact to absorb him

Here, Protege prepares to remake all creation. (including the LT and company)

The last scan shows Scathan's power interrupting Protege:

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Scathan stomping Protege with a gesture:

Protege is rendered in-affective with his mighty gesture:

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Originally posted by Diesldude

As a result, you can't dismiss it, and if you consider that LT was/is
the cosmic judge couldn't stop protege but alluded to power outside of this
existence. Scantan is part of "existence", thus he was used for this purpose by
something from outside. TOAA? who else is above LT?

Still, whether that idea is plausible or unlikely doesn't change the character Scathan.

We can't debate based on unsupported implied status/power that are further based on logical assumptions.

So therefore all we have is Scathan, and his portrayals in the arc.

Originally posted by Diesldude

I would love to see the forumla behind this proof.

So Scantan is > then Protege just because KMC accepts it?

My friend, more like because it's right there on panel (above)
and also supported by the LT's own bio.

Here's more depictions ... plus the corroborated support via official Handbook info.

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The LT (while Scathan restrains Protege physically)
absorbs Protege into the 'Eternal Hourglass' which lies within the LT:

Again,
it's Scathan that has the last say in the matter (sorta speak)

"And so it ends, and Scathan approves"

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This is PROOF that Protege had surpassed the LT in power.

Evidently what the LT said earlier was true,
they were indeed going to need the 'Ancient One's Amulet'
the LT specifically.

Here we learn that the LT was using the 'Ancient One's Amulet'
as a source of power to increase his own in order to deal with Protege:

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As for the Handbook account:

(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - LT bio 2006)

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LT's bio also corroborates what took place on panel in the GOTG arc,
it also clearly states that Scathan saved Realty:

"LT was nearly usurped by Protege,
whose ability to duplicate the powers of others
allowed him to manifest the LT's own power."

(had it not been for Scathan, Protege would've replaced the LT)

srugdoped

Originally posted by Diesldude

Again, just like Thanos in The End.

Originally posted by Diesldude

can you answer these 2 questions please?

1) Do you think the Protege could have copied TOAA?

2) And did Scanthan truely destroy Protege?

2) Scathan stomped Protege,
right before Protege was about to obliterate the everyone there (including LT)

Then Scathan physically restrained Protege (even without the energy muzzle)
while the LT amped his power to pass final judgement on Protege.

The LT absorbed Protege, to keep him imprisoned for all eternity.

^ As I said before, the name Scathan might be a play in words.His name closely resembles Stan Lee.And I remember reading a comic book were Stan Lee stated that he wont let anyone destroy the Marvel Universe 😄

So the notion that Scathan could be TOAA or one of his aspects isn't wrong to think about.So I think Scathan wins this.