"God" wasn't a reference to Sise-Neg. It was in an unrelated story, otherwise it would have specified that Sise-Neg is the "God" whom Eternity is talking about. And according to Englehart, Eternity is the embodiment of a single universe, which was pointed out in the very same issue which you're referencing.
And remember, according to you and others arguing here, Sise-Neg had the power of Eternity/Infinity (even though back then, Eternity/Death constituted the universe but that's beside the point), which were confirmed to constitute a single universe under the same writer.
I win.
Originally posted by operator616"God" wasn't a reference to Sise-Neg. It was in an unrelated story, otherwise it would have specified that Sise-Neg is the "God" whom Eternity is talking about. And according to Englehart, Eternity is the embodiment of a single universe, which was pointed out in the very same issue which you're referencing.
I'm not sure if you verified this personally but ... Frank Brunner (co-wrote Sise-Neg/Genesis) told us Stan Lee said:
“We can’t do God. You’re going to have to print in the letters column a retraction saying this is not ‘the’ God, this is just a god.”
***But Frank and Steve went ahead and did it anyway by tricking Stan Lee: 😱
"We cooked up this plot we wrote a letter from a Reverend Billingsley in Texas,
a fictional person, saying that one of the children in his parish brought him the comic book,
and he was astounded and thrilled by it, and he said,
“Wow, this is the best comic book I’ve ever read.”
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/12/22/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-30/
😂 ... Amazing!
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This story was bordeline sacrilegious cause it referenced the biblical GOD relating to what Genesis had become.
... damn skippy Sise.
Originally posted by operator616And remember, according to you and others arguing here, Sise-Neg had the power of Eternity/Infinity (even though back then, Eternity/Death constituted the universe but that's beside the point), which were confirmed to constitute a single universe under the same writer.
I said, and have always said, Sise-Neg possessed all power in Marvel.
Originally posted by operator616I win.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I disgaree.I'm not sure if you verified this personally but ... Frank Brunner (co-wrote Sise-Neg/Genesis) told us Stan Lee said:
“We can’t do God. You’re going to have to print in the letters column a retraction saying [b]this is not ‘the’ God, this is just a god
.”***But Frank and Steve went ahead and did it anyway by tricking Stan Lee: 😱
"We cooked up this plot we wrote a letter from a Reverend Billingsley in Texas,
a fictional person, saying that one of the children in his parish brought him the comic book,
and he was astounded and thrilled by it, and he said,
“Wow, this is the best comic book I’ve ever read.”http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/12/22/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-30/
😂 ... Amazing!
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Tricking the mighty Stan Lee...that story always cracks me up.
Tbh, I don't really think it's entirely relevant whether Sise-Neg recreated one universe or all universes that made up Marvel back in the day. If he decided to remake only one cosmos because that was his goal from the beginning, it still doesn't imply that control over only a single universe was the extent of his power.
What tells me so is that we previously witness Mordo and Strange getting their magic drained while they're in a void between universes, and Sise-Neg turns out to be doing this while in a universe completely disconnected from that void. And because we see him do this, the panel at the end of his journey which narrates that Sise-Neg held all extant power can only be talking about all the power in Marvel and not all the power of just a single universe, as we already see his power drain was affecting beyond a single universe.
So it can be debated what Sise-Neg decided to affect at the end of his journey, but not that he wasn't all-powerful, because that's what we see in the story and it's backed by the words of the author. As such, saying "so and so was multiversal, Sise-Neg was universal, so and so stomps" is inaccurate.
Originally posted by Marvel_Mystic
Operator sounds like a bitter DC fanboy. In most of his posts he hypes DC characters and downplays Marvel character feats.
Unfortunately fanboys cant understsnd it when a forum member makes pos t s solely depending on the facts Nd not a company bias.
Originally posted by beatboks
operator has debated for Marvel against DC as often as he has the other way.Unfortunately fanboys cant understsnd it when a forum member makes pos t s solely depending on the facts Nd not a company bias.
Thanks for the support. 🙂
But honestly, posters like Marvel Mystic, who randomly show up just to bash, aren't really worth responding to.
It's funny though, previously ive been accused of lowballing DC characters and hyping Marvel's. But you know how it is with fanboys.
Becoming God in comics is hyperbole most of the time. It's laughable to cherry pick when the supreme being of all creation is meant and when not. Villains all the time state that they become god once they get some power.
Here Lex Luthor thinks he is God
http://jeffkatz.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a721c2d7970b015431f9177b970c-800wi
That is not an argument imo.
Sise-Neg was Universal and maybe the "God" of that Universe, that's powerful enough in itself, no need to make it more impressive.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Becoming God in comics is hyperbole most of the time. It's laughable to cherry pick when the supreme being of all creation is meant and when not. Villains all the time state that they become god once they get some power.Here Lex Luthor thinks he is God
http://jeffkatz.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a721c2d7970b015431f9177b970c-800wiThat is not an argument imo.
Sise-Neg was Universal and maybe the "God" of that Universe, that's powerful enough in itself, no need to make it more impressive.
Except we have it said on panel that Sise-Neg held all existing power and we already saw he absorbed power from beyond a single universe, so we know his statements of becoming all powerful were not just hyperbole. You also have to look at writer intent, which was to make Sise-Neg the supreme being. You can't say it's just hyperbole simply because you don't like the idea of Sise-Neg becoming top dog in Marvel at the end.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Becoming God in comics is hyperbole most of the time. It's laughable to cherry pick when the supreme being of all creation is meant and when not. Villains all the time state that they become god once they get some power.Here Lex Luthor thinks he is God
http://jeffkatz.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a721c2d7970b015431f9177b970c-800wiThat is not an argument imo.
Sise-Neg was Universal and maybe the "God" of that Universe, that's powerful enough in itself, no need to make it more impressive.
Why to minimize. What the absentee professor fails to realize is that it accomplished it's goal, thus proving to be supreme.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vetthus proving to be supreme.
Oh, and the other the fact,
the phuckin WriterS themselves pointed out that Sise-Neg had become actually ... "The God." (proven in my post up top)
It always makes me chuckle when cats post empty opinions without ever reading the story, ... not you Blue.
Originally posted by CortSether
Originally posted by Mr Master
Well that, and the fact that Sise-Neg performed feats which were clearly beyond the scope of a "universal" power.Oh, and the other the fact,
the phuckin WriterS themselves pointed out that Sise-Neg had become actually ... "The God." (proven in my post up top)
It always makes me chuckle when cats post empty opinions without ever reading the story, ... not you Blue.
Synnar ****ing stomps. Keep your opinion to yourself.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Synnar ****ing stomps.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Keep your opinion to yourself.
... uhh, yea, I will try and keep the statements of the WRITER of the comic, to my self. facepalm
What you need to do is email MR Brunner and complain about the story he co-wrote.
How you disagree with HIS definition of HIS creation. dur
Originally posted by Mr Master
yawn....
... uhh, yea, I will try and keep the statements of the WRITER of the comic, to my self. facepalm
What you need to do is email MR Brunner and complain about the story he co-wrote.
How you disagree with HIS definition of HIS creation. dur
When his opinion actually is in a comic, let me know.
