depends on the speed blitz. If they dont magik takes them to limbo and the x-team wins. you cant bfr the x-team cuz of magik and she can dimension dump. magik can use hell fire on MM. she can also redirect heat vision, the lasso etc..Plus hope will have access to all those powers( and i think shes the phoenix now)
key players to blitz for the jla are magik, hope. both tp resistant( the two most powerful ones need a split second to get their most powerful forms) before they amp.
the new wonderwoman can't fly right? I am also not sure how they take danger out either. tp resistant and can reform at will.
if cis is off magik stays in Limbo and just teleports the x-men all over the place slowly taking them out one by one. a couple of x-men fall of course (namor, storm, rachel a couple of others)
if they blitz magik and hope jla wins
oops sorry no bfr allowed? no limbo allowed?
JLA got too much firepower to loose here. And of course, thtat doesn't incluse Aquadouche.
But look at this: Hal Jordan, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and John Stewart. All herald lvler, and in that list, only John isn't in the "creme of the crop".
They can bfr X-Men easely, because Magix won't find her teammates, if they are in the middle of space.
Huge versatility advantage on JLA side too.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
JLA got too much firepower to loose here. And of course, thtat doesn't incluse Aquadouche.But look at this: Hal Jordan, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and John Stewart. All herald lvler, and in that list, only John isn't in the "creme of the crop".
They can bfr X-Men easely, because Magix won't find her teammates, if they are in the middle of space.
Huge versatility advantage on JLA side too.
Magik teleports across space and time. She can arguably send them into the end of time. she time travels often and can manipulate time. She can teleport across galaxies. Magik has a scying pool that can see anywhere. she can go to asgard, space any dimension any time period.
She was able to teleport Colossus right on top of kuurth from the crimson cosmos to kuurth who has right in the middle of san fransico. the soul sword can hurt mephistio it can kill wonder woman.
Hope, magik a cyttorak powered colossus and exodus are herald level people too.
Here doc strange says magik can manipulate time on a vast scale. she turned back an entire reality
she can make magical constructs. She depowered the enchatress in one move and threatened to kill her. she can do almost anything in limbo. she can manipulate matter change the surroundings. manipulate time. but she is normally very underpowerd outside limbo( that's why i said the blitz is the best way to deal with her before she amps, gets armored up, etc...)
then you have hope who cable said is the phoenix. plus colossus juggs, exodus and danger. hope will have access to all the combined powers of magneto, exodus, namor storm, magiks porting etc...plus the pf force.
Originally posted by Existere
Is that... Pixie?Pretty much the same as Martian Manhunter, I see your logic. mmm
maybe this a better feat. she sends warlock to limbo and tuns limbo into a fire pit. She also can move mountains turn them into giant hands, etc...sorcerer supreme and all that. and forget about magik what about hope? the biggest problem.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Exactly; It amuses me, the ignorance that exists when it comes to a character that big in comicdom.
Honestly, he is a great character...wished DC used him more. From the way things are looking, Aquaman is getting more screen time than some of the main guns before the reboot (Diana, Martian Manhunter...I think he even have more showings than Flash). Aquaman is doing good.
Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, he is a great character...wished DC used him more. From the way things are looking, Aquaman is getting more screen time than some of the main guns before the reboot (Diana, Martian Manhunter...I think he even have more showings than Flash). Aquaman is doing good.
He's in a flagship title, and luckily, he's been changed very little in the reboot. They're adding to his history rather than changing it.
And yeah, he's had some decent feats. Physically at least. He needs some more telepathy ones.
well for me even without relying on magik's magic spells or limbo. without the blitz hope and magik can teleport mm into the sun ww, bats aquaman into some obscure dimension etc... its in character for magik at least. it would take less then a second. both hope and magik have great tp resistance. ( not sure if mm can mid rape them) its debatble. they can also put up disc shields vs physical and energy attacks and redirect them( the energy attacks at least) and the soul sword can carve up wonder woman.
so that leaves the gls and supes while the team dog piles on them. supes in limbo ( which is a highly magical realm will be vulnerable) mm normaly doesn't blitz, thats why aquaman was able to tp the white martian. I only think of flash who blitzes from the start. if he was here..id give the jla the majority for sure.
if they do blitz and hope and magik fall, the x-men have no chance imo. colossus can get bfr'd , no more hell fire or teleporting and dimension dumping against mm, no more magic attacks vs supes. still not sure how they ko danger though( they can bfr her i guess)
Hope absorbed all of utopia but burned out after a short fight. but they say she's getting better. i don't see why she cant get 5 or 6 super powerd guys right now. and still not sure the she can do with the phoenix force. She won't be able to get pete's cyttorak amp and magik's sorcery though, since they arn't mutant powers.
im am also curious i think gl's would beat mags but some say mags can control light. Can mags control the gl's light constructs?
is jla/avengers canon?( like photon abosrbing gl's stuff and wonder man breaking the kyle's sheild?) really hard to compare dc and marvel..