CISLESS Silver Surfer vs CISLESS Thanos

Started by PillarofOsiris7 pages

The whole creating a black hole in Thanos's brain seems a lot like the argument that Dr. Manhattan could demolecularize someone like Thor or Superman. Just because he can control molecules and Superman is made of molecules, doesn't mean he can do so to someone with Superman's durability. Same here with Thanos. There's ZERO proof a black hole could be made in Thanos's brain....especially by someone who is CLEARLY on a lower power level tier than him.

Originally posted by Nihilist
To get a Black Hole in Thanos brain, he would have to get past Thanos mental barriers, granted its not a TP attack but Thanos still be able to put a fight from it entering

That makes no sense.

Silver Surfer black holes through shields

When the only time we've seen him make a black hole was on a time effect blast.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
That makes no sense.
Course it does Thanos has various mental barries and defences , so something just appearing in his head is unlikely

Thanos.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Course it does Thanos has various mental barries and defences , so something just appearing in his head is unlikely

But this isn't a mental attack. It's a physical attack that just happens to be located within the brain. In the brain =/= in the mind.

Surfer wouldn't be able to do a blackhole in the head of Thanos.

Why?

Because he'd be ****ing dead.

Why?

Because he'd be messing with Thanos. And he's not winning this fight, in any conceivable way you look at it.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Surfer wouldn't be able to do a blackhole in the head of Thanos.

Why?

Because he'd be ****ing dead.

Why?

Because he'd be messing with Thanos. And he's not winning this fight, in any conceivable way you look at it.

I don't see the logic of this post. It's a form of circular reasoning. Thanos wins because he wins. Makes no sense.

You nor anyone else has offered a defense against the black hole scenario.

Nor has anyone offered a defense against the board attacking at a million C from behind while Surfer remains intangible.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see the logic of this post. It's a form of circular reasoning. Thanos wins because he wins. Makes no sense.

You nor anyone else has offered a defense against the black hole scenario.

Nor has anyone offered a defense against the board attacking at a million C from behind while Surfer remains intangible.

Thanos wins because in comics he's always been abc logic superior and superior head on to the Surfer. You acting as if the Surfer wins because you dreamed up a scenario which contradicts comics. That isn't debating.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see the logic of this post. It's a form of circular reasoning. Thanos wins because he wins. Makes no sense.

I agree. That was circular reasoning.

You nor anyone else has offered a defense against the black hole scenario.

I did. I said that Thanos uses his FTL reflexes to avoid Surfer's effort. You said he doesn't have FTL reflexes, which made me sigh because everyone knows otherwise.

Anyway, CISless Thanos just spams AOEs until tiny-Surfer is dead. Just because Surfer can phase, doesn't mean he can pass harmlessly through Thanos' energy attacks. And we know for a fact that he can't take those hits.

Nor has anyone offered a defense against the board attacking at a million C from behind while Surfer remains intangible.

Same.

How is this still going on? Thanos would beat the hell out of Norrin, and there would be nothing that Norrin could do about it. Hell Thanos would beat him up right in Galactus' face.

Also I must add that Mjolnir moves just as fast as the board, and Thanos stopped it in mid flight.

Check this badass scan

Question...

Let's assume Thanos cannot access his tech--what would happen if Surfer opened up a black hole 2 feet away from him? I know Surfer can escape its pull, but can Thanos? This is a serious question, as I honestly do not know the full extent of Thanos' abilities.

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just noticed this question has already been asked. I'd still like a feat-based answer, though.

Thanos.

Originally posted by Galan007
Question...

Let's assume Thanos cannot access his tech--what would happen if Surfer opened up a black hole 2 feet away from him? I know Surfer can escape its pull, but can Thanos? This is a serious question, as I honestly do not know the full extent of Thanos' abilities.

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just noticed this question has already been asked. I'd still like a feat-based answer, though.

He could just teleport away from it under his own power. He teleported out of the closed black hole under his own power and he teleported into the Afro Magus timeline/dimension under his own power.

^ What if Surfer stayed right next to the black hole, whilst using his intangibility? How would/could Thanos attack him?

Again, I'm genuinely asking because I honestly do not know.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ What if Surfer stayed right next to the black hole, whilst using his intangibility? How would/could Thanos attack him?

Again, I'm genuinely asking because I honestly do not know.

I dont see intangibility being a problem for Thanos as a weaker Thanos clone dealt with the Visions intangibility easy enough.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins because in comics he's always been abc logic superior and superior head on to the Surfer. You acting as if the Surfer wins because you dreamed up a scenario which contradicts comics. That isn't debating.

Being superior doesn't mean you must win. Otherwise there would be no debate. It is how a character can win that is to be debated.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
I agree. That was circular reasoning.

I did. I said that Thanos uses his FTL reflexes to avoid Surfer's effort. You said he doesn't have FTL reflexes, which made me sigh because everyone knows otherwise.

Anyway, CISless Thanos just spams AOEs until tiny-Surfer is dead. Just because Surfer can phase, doesn't mean he can pass harmlessly through Thanos' energy attacks. And we know for a fact that he can't take those hits.

Same.

Prove to me that Thanos has ftl reflexes. To do this you have to show Thanos responding to a ftl attack from less than 6ft away MULTIPLE TIMES. Or Thanos reacting to multiple light speed attacks simultaneously.

Thanos doesn't really have super speed. Well he's faster than a human but not much faster than CA and definitely not faster than Spider-man.

Originally posted by Nihilist
He could just teleport away from it under his own power. He teleported out of the closed black hole under his own power and he teleported into the Afro Magus timeline/dimension under his own power.

Thanos can't teleport under his own power. Any Thanos fan knows this. He uses tech to achieve this. Sometimes his tech is built into his body.

Originally posted by Nihilist
I dont see intangibility being a problem for Thanos as a weaker Thanos clone dealt with the Visions intangibility easy enough.
Would Thanos have to be within close proximity of Surfer to muck with his intangibility (assuming he even could)? If so, he'd still have the singularity to contend with. If not... He'd still have the singularity to contend with.

I understand full well that Thanos has a LOT more power output--but more power doesn't necessarily mean he can overcome the versatility a CIS-less Surfer brings to the table. But again, I don't know the full extent of Thanos' abilities either (hence my questions.)