He does this to human reflexes
So basically, after he gets around the K gloves, He can basically just rape him, before He even notices it. 🙂
Originally posted by biensalsa
He does this to human reflexesSo basically, after he gets around the K gloves, He can basically just rape him, before He even notices it. 🙂
Mach 4? REALLY
Originally posted by Placidity
Sure lets assume for the moment his suit can fly that fast (don't buy it, but I digress). But what would be really great was if you could explain how Stark, with human reflexes/perception, would REACT to Superman's speed? Thanks Dr Carver.
While superman is faster, Stark has way beyond human reflexes/perception in his suit.
Originally posted by carver9
Does ANYONE actually listen to what you say (Superman 10 times stronger than Thor...Wonder Woman 5 Times stronger than Thor). Get out of here.
Actually...
Busiek believes Superman can defeat Thor
Jurgens does not believe Superman can defeat Thor, but only by weakness exploitation, when asked who was more powerful he responded this:
"DAN JURGENS: I know. I know. Straight up? Superman is more powerful, but because of the magic weakness . . . but because of the magic component, Thor wins.
RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?
DAN JURGENS: Yeah.
RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?
DAN JURGENS: Yes.
RC: Wouldn’t that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?
DAN JURGENS: Yes.
Editor's Note: Since publishing of the interview, Dan Jurgens has further expanded on his answer, contradicting the transcript of the interview. ComicBoards has listened to the tape and finds no indication of humor, sarcasm, irony or sardonic whit in Jurgens' statements or Richard Caponetti's questions. While we can't know what Mr. Jurgens was thinking, or if he silently laughed to himself or in a manner that could not be heard by the tape or by the interviewer, by all apperarences, Jurgens' comments here are genuine. ComicBoards stands by the interviewer in his assesments"
So they agree 🙂
It seems You think Superman is like high street level or something
Originally posted by biensalsa
Actually...Busiek believes Superman can defeat Thor
Jurgens does not believe Superman can defeat Thor, but only by weakness exploitation, when asked who was more powerful he responded this:
"DAN JURGENS: I know. I know. Straight up? Superman is more powerful, but because of the magic weakness . . . but because of the magic component, Thor wins.
RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?
DAN JURGENS: Yeah.
RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?
DAN JURGENS: Yes.
RC: Wouldn’t that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?
DAN JURGENS: Yes.
Editor's Note: Since publishing of the interview, Dan Jurgens has further expanded on his answer, contradicting the transcript of the interview. ComicBoards has listened to the tape and finds no indication of humor, sarcasm, irony or sardonic whit in Jurgens' statements or Richard Caponetti's questions. While we can't know what Mr. Jurgens was thinking, or if he silently laughed to himself or in a manner that could not be heard by the tape or by the interviewer, by all apperarences, Jurgens' comments here are genuine. ComicBoards stands by the interviewer in his assesments"
So they agree 🙂
You know right after this interview he said that he wasn't serious and that Thor is just as powerful and as strong as Superman right? Would you like for me to post what Pak said about WWH and Superman? Would you like for me to post what a writer said about Savage Hulk and Superman? Or how about WWH vs Galactus?
Originally posted by carver9
Current Superman>Pre reboot Superman.
I sincerely hope that's just another badly executed joke of yours.
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Either way, even if you wanted to argue that Iron Man could physically challenge Pre Reboot Superman, Superman still has a sizeable speed advantage, so that should give him the advantage imo. As well as his other powers of course.
Iron Man doesn't have "human" level reaction time; that was one of the main points of Extremis' upgrades. He was fast enough in his suit to surprise and keep up with Sentry, who wasn't jobbing for once (until Tony exploited CLOC). That's also coupled with his own form of "spider-sense".
Is Superman still faster? Sure, but unless Superman is going to be using his high end speed and tap into the Forum Force, I don't see why anyone would use instances of Superman punking human level reaction time as evidence to be used against Tony.
And guys, stop trying to use interviews as proof of anything. Means jackshit on the boards.
Originally posted by carver
You know right after this interview he said that he wasn't serious and that Thor is just as powerful and as strong as Superman right? Would you like for me to post what Pak said about WWH and Superman? Would you like for me to post what a writer said about Savage Hulk and Superman? Or how about WWH vs Galactus?
I am aware of that, this is why i also posted the editors note.
Difference with pak, is that he has not been a regular writter for sm, hell i do not even think he has ever been. Jurgens and busiek both have written both characters
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Iron Man doesn't have "human" level reaction time; that was one of the main points of Extremis' upgrades. He was fast enough in his suit to surprise and keep up with Sentry, who wasn't jobbing for once (until Tony exploited CLOC). That's also coupled with his own form of "spider-sense".Is Superman still faster? Sure, but unless Superman is going to be using his high end speed and tap into the Forum Force, I don't see why anyone would use instances of Superman punking human level reaction time as evidence to be used against Tony.
And guys, stop trying to use interviews as proof of anything. Means jackshit on the boards.
Agreed interviewsmean jack, i was just pointing out how others agree on the issue.
But I don't think mach 9000 is high end speed feat tapping into
the forum force.
Originally posted by biensalsa
Agreed interviewsmean jack, i was just pointing out how others agree on the issue.But I don't think mach 9000 is high end speed feat tapping into
the forum force.
Agreed.
I know Tony has preset auto reactions in his suit, in addition to the Extremis...
But he's still facing someone fast enough to outrun Black Canary's cry and beat it to its destination...
