Originally posted by Placidity
Ok, if its true the suit enhances his brain, then that would make sense.That's still a looong shot from claiming he can keep up with Superman.
No. He is the suit now. He integrated it with his body. So he is no longer a non-enhanced human. He thinks, moves, and works at stupidly fast speeds now.
I think Superman is more powerful in every single area of contention, Iron Man is simply more versatile. I don't know if anything that Iron Man has on his armor as a standard would be able to defeat him in a non-prepped match (I'm sure if I could think of something if pressed), but I know for a fact that he has made inventions that could defeat him (of which I'm saving for a tournament, if we ever have one again, so I won't mention it here).
Well Carver, since you called me buddy in another thread, I must inform you that if you give me the curse I'll have to track you down and do this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebGspy3Yv0g
Including singing randomly thrown together English and Icelandic words like the song in the video. hm Better learn Icelandic in case.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Well Carver, since you called me buddy in another thread, I must inform you that if you give me the curse I'll have to track you down and do this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebGspy3Yv0g
Including singing randomly thrown together English and Icelandic words like the song in the video. hm Better learn Icelandic in case.
😂 I love it. That was an amazing video. What kind of UFC is that (the ref just allowed people to get stepped on).?
Originally posted by carver9
😂 I love it. That was an amazing video. What kind of UFC is that (the ref just allowed people to get stepped on).?
Well, one, "UFC" is a promotion. Though a lot of people actually think UFC IS . Most of the fights in there were from Pride Fighting Championship. Japanese promotion. Lot of Pride fanboys think Pride was way better than the UFC. Well, they allowed soccer kicks, stomps and knees to the head of a downed opponent. Also, although Pride had weight classes, due to no laws in Japan actually enforced them(unlike athletic commissions here in the U.S.) they often had a lot of fights where the fighters had a full weight class or even more between them. This is the most extreme example of that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWxlZ52O0rI
Also, some of those fights were in Brazilian "Vale Tudo"(means "Anything Goes;" pretty much just what they called MMA there at the time) fights. Which were even more brutal than the Pride fights. The UFC was basically born out of Vale Tudo, and had the same limited rules before regulation. The early fights had no judges, no rounds, no time limits, and the only things disallowed were biting, eye-gouging, and fish hooking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish-hooking
In fact, in the early UFCs and Vale Tudo in Brazil, not only were soccer kicks, stomps and knees to the head of a grounded opponent were allowed, but also headbutting and strikes to the groin. The video's no longer up, but there was a fight where Garry Goodridge's entire strategy consisted of "take away the man's ability to have children." Including him actually reaching into the guy's shorts and uh, having a squeeze. I guess sexual assault was allowed? Anyways, here's one video of early UFC allowing groin strikes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Mva-3n7TY
And that's actually the guy who played Random Task, the Oddjob parody, in the first AUSTIN POWERS movie. The sweet, sweet irony there is the dude getting struck in the groin? He would later be arrested for participating in a gang-rape that happened before that fight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son#Legal_problems
And as you can see below, he was also a terrible MMA fighter not only losing every fight he'd been in(including one kickboxing bout), but submitted by....."terror." No, I don't know why it says "Submission Terror" on his record.
Oh yeah, and he was religious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N9eRehnMiY
Quite possibly the most famous terrible fighter ever.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Well, one, "UFC" is a promotion. Though a lot of people actually think UFC [B]IS . Most of the fights in there were from Pride Fighting Championship. Japanese promotion. Lot of Pride fanboys think Pride was way better than the UFC. Well, they allowed soccer kicks, stomps and knees to the head of a downed opponent. Also, although Pride had weight classes, due to no laws in Japan actually enforced them(unlike athletic commissions here in the U.S.) they often had a lot of fights where the fighters had a full weight class or even more between them. This is the most extreme example of that.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWxlZ52O0rI
Also, some of those fights were in Brazilian "Vale Tudo"(means "Anything Goes;" pretty much just what they called MMA there at the time) fights. Which were even more brutal than the Pride fights. The UFC was basically born out of Vale Tudo, and had the same limited rules before regulation. The early fights had no judges, no rounds, no time limits, and the only things disallowed were biting, eye-gouging, and fish hooking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish-hooking
In fact, in the early UFCs and Vale Tudo in Brazil, not only were soccer kicks, stomps and knees to the head of a grounded opponent were allowed, but also headbutting and strikes to the groin. The video's no longer up, but there was a fight where Garry Goodridge's entire strategy consisted of "take away the man's ability to have children." Including him actually reaching into the guy's shorts and uh, having a squeeze. I guess sexual assault was allowed? Anyways, here's one video of early UFC allowing groin strikes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Mva-3n7TY
And that's actually the guy who played Random Task, the Oddjob parody, in the first AUSTIN POWERS movie. The sweet, sweet irony there is the dude getting struck in the groin? He would later be arrested for participating in a gang-rape that happened before that fight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son#Legal_problems
And as you can see below, he was also a terrible MMA fighter not only losing every fight he'd been in(including one kickboxing bout), but submitted by....."terror." No, I don't know why it says "Submission Terror" on his record.
Oh yeah, and he was religious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N9eRehnMiY
Quite possibly the most famous terrible fighter ever. [/B]
D***, I have to start looking at this. It's awesome. It's dangerous though...I'm pretty sure someone have probably died from this type of fighting. They are allowing people to get kicked in the head along with everything else.
Originally posted by carver9
D***, I have to start looking at this. It's awesome. It's dangerous though...I'm pretty sure someone have probably died from this type of fighting. They are allowing people to get kicked in the head along with everything else.
Well, the UFC and most promotions don't allow kicks/knees to the head of a downed opponent. The new One Fighting Championship does allow it, though, as well as elbow strikes(Pride didn't allow elbow strikes, nor does their "successor" DREAM).
And as for danger, actually, boxing is statistically more dangerous than MMA. There's only been two, maybe 3 deaths attributed directly to MMA fights(the danger comes more from things like cutting weight, as some people who are new to it do it improperly and have nearly died after the fights, but boxers and wrestlers cut weight too). And one of those deaths could've been avoided if the fighter actually did what he was supposed to(had a brain injury where he was told to take a year off, didn't, went to Russia or somewhere around there where he didn't have to be medically cleared, died during the fight).
Boxing averages 5 deaths nowadays a year attributed to boxing. MMA still has fewer deaths in it's entire modern history(if you don't count Victorian era Boxing VS Wrestling/Jujitsu or Wrestling VS Jujitsu matches, or Vale Tudo's century-long history) period than boxing has in it's entire modern history. And boxing was actually safer when it was bare-knuckled(seriously; statistics back this, and there's good reasons it was safer without gloves). And yes, I'm including Pride's history and the UFC's "Dark Ages" when they allowed kicking a downed opponent in the head. Unless you go back REALLY far to Ancient Greece with Pankration, but deaths were more common because fighters generally refused to submit and were choked to death(nowadays, the ref stops the fight if the fighter was choked unconscious).
But yeah, if you're new to this, I suggest you start by checking-out Anderson Silva.
Re: Re: Re: Superman vs Iron Man
Originally posted by cdtm
Not really in character for him to do this though...
It is highly in his character. Learn CIS properly. There is no way Superman from .5km away is going to purposely get close to kryptonite while knowing that he can instantly destroy it without killing someone. The only way Superman is going to get close to kryptonite is when he doesn't know this will happen through lead). Tony must hide it. Otherwise Supe is going to destroy the kryptonite (as he has done in the past) with his hv.
Originally posted by Placidity
So Tony never actually makes any decisions, his suit is all automated by AI? Tony just chilling inside? I think not. I have no doubt AI plays a big part, however whenever Ironman raises his arm to shoot someone or fly out of the way, thats Stark controlling the suit, not the other way round.
Come on dude. Supes wins this, but don't comment on what a character can or can't do if your not familiar/up to date on his powerset.
In his most powerful Hulk-Busting armour, and with Supes starting the fight as he usually does, they will trade blows for a while. Then Supes will go all out and speed blitz him.
As much as I love Iron man this is not a fight he can win without complete character and weakness exploitation. And that means more than just Kryptonite gloves Lol.