Superman vs Thor

Started by quanchi11219 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman is more durable than thor. Source wall exploding, 52 supernovas, double black holes, sandwiched between two planets at least thousands of times bigger than earth, thrown in a red sun etc.
Is it close iyo ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is it close iyo ?

Well I think that thor and diana are almost same in blunt force durability.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What feats are you taking about and what people?

Or do you mean in the general sense?

Even so, passing knowledge of Thor should tell you that they're comparable. That's just common sense. Or it should be.

In general. Respect Threads are fun to look at and all, but I have seen feats fall under one or more, sometimes all, of those categories. I'm not saying they're worthless, but now I mostly go to them when I'm bored as opposed to going to them to gather evidence.

And I have a passing knowledge of Thor. What I've seen isn't comparable to Superman's best.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin is far more impressive than the likes of Blaze and Shazam to begin with.

Plus there's Ymir, Surtur, the Dark Gods, Glory, Zeus, Thanos, the Destroyer Armor, etc. if you're looking for more opposition.

Specifically on Zeus, wouldn't that not be a great example of Thor's durability? If lightning refreshes Thor, wouldn't half of Zeus' attacks in that fight just rejuvenate him?

And I could always bring-up Emperor Joker.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You used Blaze like that's impressive.

Blaze isn't powerful? 🙄 And where did I say she was the most powerful? But she is an impressive example.

Originally posted by quanchi112
4th host of the Celestials are more impressive than anyone on your list.

More impressive than someone who wields the power of the Big Bang and consumes entire galaxies?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What instance are you referring to when Imperiex Prime hit Superman.

One: That wasn't a question, it was a statement. There was no question mark. Two: I was referring to when Superman was blasted by Imperiex Prime after Imperiex killed Doomsday. Superman wasn't Sun-Dipped until after Brainiac came in with Warworld and absorbed Imperiex Prime's energy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I thought this was common sense but then delta washed up on the shores of kmc in a cloud of tear gas.

Yeah, so says the guy who thought Superman was Sun-Dipped in my example.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Depends on the Hulk (and Superman in question, I guess). If you think that pre-Flashpoint/New Earth Superman can replicate what Pre-Crisis Superman did against Hulk, you'd be sadly mistaken.

If you're talking about getting pounded on like PC Superman let Hulk do, then I'd agree. But Starscream said "a full punch." Considering some of the examples Superman's pulled-off against top-tier and above top-tier bricks, I don't think it's unreasonable to take a single full-on punch and not move, depending on the Hulk.

Originally posted by Delta1938

Blaze isn't powerful? 🙄 And where did I say she was the most powerful? But she is an impressive example.

Not as impressive as Mephisto so I countered your Blaze reference.


More impressive than someone who wields the power of the Big Bang and consumes entire galaxies? [/B]
Imperiex didn't use the big bang while Galactus wields the un. That's about as relevant as wielding the big bang. Odin can destroy entire galaxies and affect the entire multiverse. Anything you can do Thor can do better.

One: That wasn't a question, it was a statement. There was no question mark. Two: I was referring to when Superman was blasted by Imperiex Prime after Imperiex killed Doomsday. Superman wasn't Sun-Dipped until after Brainiac came in with Warworld and absorbed Imperiex Prime's energy.[/B]

After he blasted him he flew through the sun. The sun powers him up. Next.


Yeah, so says the guy who thought Superman was Sun-Dipped in my example. [/B]
I wanted you to be clear but you still used an example where his body was healed by flying through the sun directly after the blast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not as impressive as Mephisto so I countered your Blaze reference.

Your list was still inferior as a whole.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Imperiex didn't use the big bang while Galactus wields the un. That's about as relevant as wielding the big bang. Odin can destroy entire galaxies and affect the entire multiverse. Anything you can do Thor can do better.

So another example of you being a hypocrite? Why does it matter that Odin can destroy entire galaxies and effect the multiverse unless he was using those attacks against Thor? I mean you bring-up that Imperiex Prime didn't use his full power of the Big Bang against Superman. How about Emperor Joker? He was able to reform the entire universe to his liking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
After he blasted him he flew through the sun. The sun powers him up. Next.

I wanted you to be clear but you still used an example where his body was healed by flying through the sun directly after the blast.

Don't have a digital copy of OWAW and my friend's got my TPBs so I can't check to verify. But even if you're correct, so what? That would just mean Superman would be refreshed after taking the attack. He was hit by what looked like the same attack that killed Doomsday without a Sun-Dip.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Your list was still inferior as a whole.
By feats and standing my list trumps your list by far.


So another example of you being a hypocrite? Why does it matter that Odin can destroy entire galaxies and effect the multiverse unless he was using those attacks against Thor? I mean you bring-up that Imperiex Prime didn't use his full power of the Big Bang against Superman. How about Emperor Joker? He was able to reform the entire universe to his liking.[/B]
Odin was in the same arc when he attacked Thor. Imperiex Prime shot him through his own power source yet you dismiss that. Was EJ actively trying to best Superman in combat ?


Don't have a digital copy of OWAW and my friend's got my TPBs so I can't check to verify. But even if you're correct, so what? That would just mean Superman would be refreshed after taking the attack. He was hit by what looked like the same attack that killed Doomsday without a Sun-Dip. [/B]
The yellow sun powers him up and you say so what. Are you serious ? It clearly replenishes his power and amps him. Superman got his power back from going right through the sun. So we will just throw that example out.

I think we should take away Quan's right to wear a Superman sig... mmm

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think we should take away Quan's right to wear a Superman sig... mmm
You will never see me sporting a ne Superman sig unless he's being hit in it by someone else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You will never see me sporting a ne Superman sig unless he's being hit in it by someone else.

Sure.

Also, Superman wasn't shot through any sun.

Originally posted by quanchi112
By feats and standing my list trumps your list by far.

Not really. You could say Jake's beats my original list, but not the few you gave.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin was in the same arc when he attacked Thor.

So did Odin go all-out with his Galaxy-Busting attacks on Thor? Yes, or no?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Imperiex Prime shot him through his own power source yet you dismiss that. Was EJ actively trying to best Superman in combat ?

The yellow sun powers him up and you say so what. Are you serious ? It clearly replenishes his power and amps him. Superman got his power back from going right through the sun. So we will just throw that example out.

Assuming you're correct, Superman went through AFTER he had already been attacked. But I don't even recall that happening the way you're describing it. I'll try to get a hold of the issues tonight so I can verify if you're BSing or got it wrong or whatever. But it's still a poor argument as Superman was in the same spot for a similar amount of time as Doomsday was.

As for Emperor Joker, what do you mean? He was fighting Superman, pretty clear he was trying to hurt Superman, especially when he got mad that Superman actually hurt him. Of course, if you're trying to argue that Emperor Joker was going all-out, that would verify my point that you're a hypocrite. Them not using their full power only counts for Superman, but it doesn't against Thor?

Here, I'll be your little cheerleader, Quan.

Give me an "H!" "H!" You got your "H" you got your "H.' Gimme a "Y," "Y!!" You got your "Y" you got your "Y." Gimme a "P, O, C, R, I T E!!" What's that spell? HYPOCRITE!!! YAAAAAY!! GoooooOOOOOOOO QUANCHI!!! YAY!!!

Originally posted by Delta1938
Not really. You could say Jake's beats my [B]original list, but not the few you gave.[/B]
Celestials, Galactus, Odin. That beats your list.


So did Odin go all-out with his Galaxy-Busting attacks on Thor? Yes, or no?[/B]
Galaxies weren't destroyed but just because Prime fights Yat and the cemetery survives that their attacks were weak sauce. Thor didn't fly into a healing pool either.


Assuming you're correct, Superman went through AFTER he had already been attacked. But I don't even recall that happening the way you're describing it. I'll try to get a hold of the issues tonight so I can verify if you're BSing or got it wrong or whatever. But it's still a poor argument as Superman was in the same spot for a similar amount of time as Doomsday was.[/B]
I could post the scans but go ahead and look it up yourself.

As for Emperor Joker, what do you mean? He was fighting Superman, pretty clear he was trying to hurt Superman, especially when he got mad that Superman actually hurt him. Of course, if you're trying to argue that Emperor Joker was going all-out, that would verify my point that you're a hypocrite. Them not using their full power only counts for Superman, but it doesn't against Thor?[/B]
Joker usually toys with his opponents that's whY I said so. What issue as I am not familiar with EJoker ?

Here, I'll be your little cheerleader, Quan.

Give me an "H!" "H!" You got your "H" you got your "H.' Gimme a "Y," "Y!!" You got your "Y" you got your "Y." Gimme a "P, O, C, R, I T E!!" What's that spell? HYPOCRITE!!! YAAAAAY!! GoooooOOOOOOOO QUANCHI!!! YAY!!! [/B]

I can picture you with pom poms and a skirt doing this. 😘 The interview you cited him in he didn't give a clear answer. He didn't say that definitely did not happen. Bendis said maybe and maybe not.

We go by on panel since his answer was vague.

Quan, don't say you go by what's on panel when you misrepresent Superman scans yourself.

Everyone should just join my BZ Tournament and go from there.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan, don't say you go by what's on panel when you misrepresent Superman scans yourself.
Which scans did I misrepresent ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which scans did I misrepresent ?

Saying he was shot through a sun when he wasn't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Saying he was shot through a sun when he wasn't.
Sigh. Give me a moment to post the scans.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sigh. Give me a moment to post the scans.

I know what scan you're talking about, and you're wrong.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Does anyone have a scan stating that the ufoes were AMPED by norm stones when they blasted Thor?

I remember the Avengers were amped by them when fighting the Void.