House of El vs House of Vel

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House of El vs House of Vel

Superman
Superboy (Conner)
Supergirl

vs

Mar-Vel
Genis-Vel
Phylla-Vel

Genis solos

El wins.

Marv can hang for a bit, Phylla gets destroyed

Problem with team Supes is that they all have very incapacitating weaknesses that Genis could easily exploit.

Originally posted by Galan007
Problem with team Supes is that they all have very incapacitating weaknesses that Genis could easily exploit.
At once though? as imo it would quickly become a 3 on 1 scenerio

Transmutation of the battlefield into kryptonite, and/or red sun radiation should suffice.

Originally posted by Galan007
Transmutation of the battlefield into kryptonite, and/or red sun radiation should suffice.

Cosmic awareness? Really? I expected better from you. 🙁

Genis has omniversal awareness. Admittedly, it'd be kinda hard to slip anything by him.

Trust me, I don't like it. ermm

Originally posted by Galan007
Genis has omniversal awareness. Admittedly, it'd be kinda hard to slip anything by him.

Trust me, I don't like it. ermm

The only one that seemed to me to have that was Insane. At least, had it and knew how to use it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only one that seemed to me to have that was Insane. At least, had it and knew how to use it.
Cosmic awareness is what made Genis insane in the first place--he couldn't handle it.

When Genis evolved into Photon, he gained full control over his CA:

Originally posted by Galan007
Cosmic awareness is what made Genis insane in the first place--he couldn't handle it.

When Genis evolved into Photon, he gained full control over his CA:

That wasn't the impression I got from it, tbh.

What do you mean?

Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean?

His ability to use his CA just seemed, I dunno, borked, to me. We're both talking about Thunderbolts, right?

Thanos win

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos win
Hahahaha! Leave it to a Thanos fan 😛

Superman has fought it with a planet destroying spaceship composed of kryptonite. If we're going to CA route, how fast is genis?

Genis solos

phyla dies because she is an embarrassment.

Good enough!

Originally posted by -Pr-
His ability to use his CA just seemed, I dunno, borked, to me. We're both talking about Thunderbolts, right?
Yeah, he used it quite a few times during Thunderbolts... To pretty extreme degrees, in fact. Owning Purple Man (amped by Overmind) comes to mind.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If we're going to CA route, how fast is genis?
He can see things happen before they happen, so he's pretty 'fast' in that sense.

But if you're trying to say that Superman would just "wtfspeedblitz1111!!!1" Genis in the first picosecond of the battle as though it were an 'in character' tactic for Supes, you'd be hard-pressed to prove he could incapacitate Genis before Genis mindraped him, BFR'd him, or exploited one of his weaknesses.

I'm not opposed to the idea of Supes beating him, but Genis is just one of those hax characters that're hard to make a case against--especially with less-versatile characters.

Don't argue against Galan when it comes to energy manipulators